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Old 11-29-2017, 10:13 PM   #1
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Mountain Air Arrived!

Just want to tell everyone finally arrived my new 2018 4047 Mountain Aie. I think I have the first one sold? Put my order in May. It was totally worth the wait. I'm so happy with all of it. The extra 100 grand for the mountain Aire is worth it. Had a 2017 Dutch Star 3837 model, sold it to a private buyer. It was nice, but Mountain Aire just has lot more. Order all the upgrades. The new kitchen window is fantastic, it is just like New Arie Kitchen window. Drove it home from AZ. to San Diego. Love the Spartan Chassis. K3 with all the bells and whistles. Bigger fuel tank. Because of iRV2, I found out about the new 40 footer Mountain Aire,because I was ordering a Dutch Star again 4018. Change it to the Mountain Aire. Thank you to all you for the timely information.
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Old 11-30-2017, 03:54 AM   #2
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:44 AM   #3
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Great...Hope you have alot of trouble free driving and camping. I think I'm starting to get jealous. Good Luck.
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Old 11-30-2017, 07:39 AM   #5
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Hi joefriendly,
Congrats on the new coach. There are many happy memories waiting to be made.
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Old 11-30-2017, 11:47 AM   #6
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I'm very interested in the performance of this new coach. Is the additional power in the Mountain Air noticeable or is it lost in the additional weight (versus the Dutch Star).
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Congrats JOE and have many safe miles ahead for you.
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I would also be interested to know more of the real world performance of this model and the Cummins ISX 500. Like to know MPG, range and how well it pushes a 44,000 lb coach. I'm on my third coach with the ISL. At 38,500 lbs the DSDP 4018 I have now is much heavier than the two previous coaches. Diffidently feel the weight.

Maybe future Dutch Stars will have ISX. Would also like to see 150 gal. fuel tank on 40' models. (which the MA 4047 does have)
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I'm very interested in the performance of this new coach. Is the additional power in the Mountain Air noticeable or is it lost in the additional weight (versus the Dutch Star).


Yep, I would welcome that info as well.
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I would also be interested to know more of the real world performance of this model and the Cummins ISX 500. Like to know MPG, range and how well it pushes a 44,000 lb coach. I'm on my third coach with the ISL. At 38,500 lbs the DSDP 4018 I have now is much heavier than the two previous coaches. Diffidently feel the weight.

Maybe future Dutch Stars will have ISX. Would also like to see 150 gal. fuel tank on 40' models. (which the MA 4047 does have)
I have a 2018 4531 with this motor package. My mileage heading to California from Minnesota was roughly 7 mpg running 70mph. Since getting home and loading the coach as loaded scale is 47242lbs and the location travels we've had running no more than 65mph I'v got 8.2mpg even while towing our toad (3500 Ram Dually) which weighs 7060lbs. the coach only has about 3500 miles on it.

This motor package pushes this 47k lbs 45' coach just fine, you just need to be in the torque curve and it responds just fine. If you get out of that curve it will feel a little sluggish, but will respond easily with a little throttle. At work I drive a 105' Aerial Ladder truck for the Fire Dept, it is a 2007 model year with a Cummins ISM 450hp/1650tq basically the same as my coach except not DEF but does have a DPF system. that motor responds well and pushes that 60k lbs Aerial around Sacramento without an issue. Id think in the 40' MADP the X12 500hp motor would be a rocket ship s far as Motor Coaches go.
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I'm interested in grade climbing. My previous ISL in a lighter Diplomat could pull the Grapevine, a steep grade out west, at 55+ towing my Silverado. I could even regain speed if cut off. The Dutch Star with the ISL will barely do 45 mph up the same hill towing the same truck. Was really disappointed.

I know hill climbing isn't that important to everyone, but out west, that's all we do.
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I'm interested in grade climbing. My previous ISL in a lighter Diplomat could pull the Grapevine, a steep grade out west, at 55+ towing my Silverado. I could even regain speed if cut off. The Dutch Star with the ISL will barely do 45 mph up the same hill towing the same truck. Was really disappointed.

I know hill climbing isn't that important to everyone, but out west, that's all we do.
Well I haven't done any grades while towing or after getting loaded out, but on our way home from Steinbring we pulled Donner Pass out of Truckee at 55mph without an issue! In March 2018 we will be doing a I5 run to Disneyland and will be towing my Ram 3500 so we will see as we will go over the Grapevine.
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I had the 600 isx in my LA and loved it. I was a little concerned when we bought the MA with the 500 but I can say I feel very little difference. I pull a 15k stacker trailer and my speed up my local NW passes is off by 2mph compared to the LA. The mileage is better with the 500 as well.
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Congrats on acquiring a great coach. I looked at the MADP 4047 at the Pomona RVIA show and really liked it until I saw the small shower. I would think that for that amount of money a 40"x32" shower ought to be included. I'm 6'2", 260 lbs, 77, with a cracked head from a fall from my Bay Star a year ago. The small 36" corner shower had killed my interest in a '16 or '17 DSDP 4041. I might have began to gather my cookie jars if it were the '18 DSDP 4052 floor plan.

The larger generator, fuel tank, and freezer/refig in the front compartment are very compelling. The galley had good food prep space if the stove was oriented front to back, also recliners with the cabinet built to house a 4U work station computer with a 60 -65" Sony OLED monitor. Sofa on the pass side without arms could maybe fit a queen bed, and the euro type booth. Maybe a 2019 MADP will be something like that at the 2018 Gillete, WY rally.
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