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Old 06-21-2017, 04:24 PM   #1
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Mountain Climbing?

I'm very concerned our Canyon Star will have serious trouble crossing the Rockies next summer. It has a hard time on small hills! Anyone had experience with a (new) 2016?
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Question though.
By trouble on hills ?
Do you mean slows down or overheats ?
Your coach's power to weight ratio is in the neighborhood of 80 lbs per HP. compared to a car's 10 or so lbs per hp , It will slow down.
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Define "Serious Trouble" ??

If you're on a F53, then you won't be making any climbs at 65mph.

My F53 has 50 hp less than yours, I have no problems in the mountains. On hard climbs, I downshift to a lower gear and slow my speed.

My objective is to make the climb at a speed and rpm where I don't need the gas pedal on the floor. At very high altitudes and steep climbs, this can mean making the climb at 25 mph in 1st gear turning 4000 rpm.

ALSO - when I go down the other side, I select a gear and speed where the engine handles most of the braking and I'm not building up speed.
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I'm very concerned our Canyon Star will have serious trouble crossing the Rockies next summer. It has a hard time on small hills! Anyone had experience with a (new) 2016?
I have no problem climbing grades in the Rockies with my 2016 Winnebago Vista 30T.
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Define "Serious Trouble" ??

If you're on a F53, then you won't be making any climbs at 65mph.

My F53 has 50 hp less than yours, I have no problems in the mountains. On hard climbs, I downshift to a lower gear and slow my speed.

My objective is to make the climb at a speed and rpm where I don't need the gas pedal on the floor. At very high altitudes and steep climbs, this can mean making the climb at 25 mph in 1st gear turning 4000 rpm.

ALSO - when I go down the other side, I select a gear and speed where the engine handles most of the braking and I'm not building up speed.
I have the F53 460. I was thinking that I may overheat the transmission using the engine for braking. Rather replace brakes/rotors than a tranny. Any thoughts?
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tranny heat comes from a slipping torque converter. as long as the TC is locked up no heat.
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Old 06-21-2017, 06:18 PM   #7
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We have just purchased our first motor home...the Newmar Canyon Star, and when we go up even small hills it drops way off. We had a 40' fifth wheel that we pulled with a 350 dually and it slowed but not nearly as much. It just scares me to think of getting stuck on mountains out west. I'm still not at all comfortable driving or riding in the coach and the swaying back and forth is unnerving too. I know it will just take time. We live in SC so we don't have real big mountains but want to do a big loop of the country next year and not worry. So glad I found this app...I truly appreciate the quick response!
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Without knowing your truck; HP ; and total weights , I would hazard a guess that you're traveling with 35 to 40 % more weight and 25% less horsepower.
You're going to notice the difference.
My truck and 5er rolled at 18,600 lbs combined with 305 ( gas engine ) HP.
Current coach and toad , 32,500 lbs combined with 300, diesel HP.
I do notice the power difference on hills ; BUT ; I still get everywhere I want to go .
Faster than a loaded semi,; on the hills; that's what I aim for .
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Our coach is gas...doesn't have near the capacity to climb I would think a diesel has.
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Y'all have awesome advice and explanations. Thank you!
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Our coach is gas...doesn't have near the capacity to climb I would think a diesel has.
I understand that , but overall your coach will handle the hills and get you over the top , like I say " faster than a loaded semi." There is a section of I-84 where my coach is down to 35/40 mph , without driving it I'd think your coach would be close to the same, where semis are down to 20.
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You're a great help. My nerves can get the best of me.
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Even most big diesels will slow down up some steep grades. However we make it to the top. I can't ever recall a motor home unable to climb any hill. You will get used to it's limitations.
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I'm counting on it. We really have wanted to do a loop from SC to the northern states to CA then down the PCH and back the southern states...hitting as many national parks as possible.
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