New Aire Observations, 007 added o* camping

[Charlievette]

Originally Posted by turbopilot

I missed the turn pulling into Love's. No problem in a New Aire, just make a U-Turn. Here is a shot from my front dash cam showing the U-Turn. I made this turn with 10' to spare curb to curb. This bus can turn do a 180 in less space than the 24' MB based RV I had before.

Better turn radius than my C6 Corvette.

Picking NA up next week. Almost looking forward to it!
Chuck

[Aegon]

Originally Posted by charlievette

Better turn radius than my C6 Corvette.

Picking NA up next week. Almost looking forward to it!
Chuck

I’ll be watching to see your impression after you get her on the road. For a big box of a vehicle, it’s surprisingly nimble. I enjoy driving it a lot...I suspect you will too.

[Aegon]

Originally Posted by wb5ldn

Is the Silverleaf VMS 350 programed and functional for receiving Pressure Pro sensors tire signals? If not, what needs to be done to use pressure pro valve stem sensors?

No responses to your question yet, so I’ll pass on my experience. Sorry if I’m repeating stuff you already know.

I wanted to use PressurePro because it’s suppose to integrate w/Silverleaf. I emailed PP about the sensor batteries and was told they are not user replaceable but good for 5 or more years. I emailed a second time asking if I need an additional module to talk to Silverleaf—no response.

About that time news came out that TST is working with SL to integrate with their system, an additional module will be required (around $100). Since I like the user replaceable batteries on the TST system, I gave up on PP.

I’m happy with my choice and looking forward to the release of the TST module to talk to SL.

[Generator]

[QUOTE=charlievette; Picking NA up next week. Almost looking forward to it![/QUOTE]

I'm picking my NA up the day after tomorrow at our dealer and I'm so excited I can't sleep. We plan to camp out in the dealer's "campground" for two nights just to make sure the important systems are functional. We got to visit our NA at our dealer last Saturday and we absolutely fell in love with it. There were a couple of surprises, mostly good. First, we did not order the chrome trim package along the bottom of the unit. I was surprised to see that that because of that, Newmar also omitted the chrome plating on the side radiator cover. I'm ok with that as I really feel that the side radiator should not be something to accentuate. The NA looks great without it. Also, when we ordered our NA last year, the large awning was split into two sections, front and rear. We did not order the rear section, just to save a few bucks. But the unit arrived with a single awning extending from the front of the unit to within four feet of the rear of the coach in one piece. This is a real bonus for us and we are very happy about it. Newmar must have changed this for the newer units. Lastly, in Newgle for the New Aire, there is documentation on a Precision Circuits energy management system. It appeared to consist of a separate controller that somehow interfaced with systems and appliances to limit what could be connected given a specific user selected shore-power supply configuration (50,30,20 amps). Happily, this function is performed by the Silverleaf system in my NA, and a separate clunky controller is not included. The system shown in Newgle is apparently one that was used in an older coach. I wish Newmar would update the documentation. Our dealer appears to be doing a good job of fixing all the things that Newmar did not fix, including replacing the inverter unit. We are lucky that our dealer is only 25 miles from our garage.

[Generator]

Originally Posted by docj

It ought to be quite feasible to replace the standard SkyPro with the LTE version. The advantage of using this compared to a Jetpack (or equivalent) is primarily that the SIM is on the roof with the best possible positioning for getting a good signal. The SIM will act as if it was in a roof-mounted Jetpack attached to the roof of the RV and tethered to the Sky.

Thanks Joel. I think the Sky Pro with LTE will be a great addition to the WiFi Ranger product line. I hope that Newmar will consider adding it as either their base unit, or at least offer the SIM card addition as an option. I like the fact that an NA owner can use his existing cellular carrier and not have to subscribe to a separate (expensive) cellular plan. This will offer virtually all the functionality of the "other" wifi option that Newmar offers, but at a better price.

However, I may be too far down the road to consider upgrading. To purchase a second Sky Pro with LTE is around $700. But I would not need the router, the cabling, the power supplies, etc. I would also have to "throw away" the original Sky Pro roof mounted electronics. Do you think that there could be a special deal for NewAirheads that want to upgrade?

One last question, is there an RJ45 male and female connector inside the Sky Pro roof mounted unit? If I wanted to upgrade and also move the Sky Pro unit to a better location on the roof using the existing cable, I might need to cut the cable and put on a new RJ45.

Thanks

[docj]

Originally Posted by Generator

One last question, is there an RJ45 male and female connector inside the Sky Pro roof mounted unit? If I wanted to upgrade and also move the Sky Pro unit to a better location on the roof using the existing cable, I might need to cut the cable and put on a new RJ45.

The Ethernet cable plugs into the bottom of the SkyPro. There may be some sealing "gunk" on the connection, but there should be nothing stopping you from unplugging one unit and replacing it by another.

[turbopilot]

I have been using an old Blue Ox 7365 to tow my Wrangler. I am afraid to make the tight turns capable of the NA with this tow bar. I looks too short. Did not even want to test the idea for fear of damaging the tow bar or coach.

Instead I just ordered the new Blue Ox 7420 from Amazon. This tow bar is about 10" longer than the 7365 and I am thinking of using a 10" extension in addition. I would like to be able to make a full 180 degree turn at max wheel cut in the NA without any chance of contact between the toad and coach.

Anyone have experience with a magic following distance for a toad being pulled by a coach with a large front wheel cut?

[turbopilot]

Originally Posted by turbopilot

Anyone have experience with a magic following distance for a toad being pulled by a coach with a large front wheel cut?

Decided to answer my own question with a little simulation instead of dragging the Jeep around in some tight turns.

Rigged up a broom handle to simulate Jeep Wrangler bumper. Right end of broom handle represents the position of the right end of the Wrangler bumper.

As you can see with the tow bar in a full turn against the "stops" the Wrangler bumper is into the rear mask of the NA with the Blue Ox 7365 tow bar.



I then decided to add a 7" hitch extension and measure again. 7" helped and I think the bumper would just barely clear the NA mask against the stop, but too close for comfort.



The Blue Ox 7420 tow bar has longer arms than the 7365 so I think I will go with the 7420 and the 7" inch extension. Only question remaining is whether the NA doing a full 60 degree wheel cut 180 degree turn will create a situation where the tow bar will hit the "stops". Going to have to test that when I get the tow bar today.

In any event with the NA you want a tow bar placing the TOAD far enough back that it does not get into the back of the NA, either by a hard turn or some kind of jack knife event.

[Newaire1]

I used a extension on my Sprinter Chassis for the same reasons. It would get damn close even with the extension. I was just wondering what the longest permissible extension would be? I’m going to research and see what I can find out.

[turbopilot]

Originally Posted by Newaire1

I used a extension on my Sprinter Chassis for the same reasons. It would get damn close even with the extension. I was just wondering what the longest permissible extension would be? I’m going to research and see what I can find out.

Let us know what you find. The idea is never to turn so sharp you "hit the stops" on the tow bar, but if you do there is no chance of hitting the coach. Better to bend up a $700 tow bar if you turn too hard.

As soon as I mount up the new 7420 I am going to slowly test the limits with the NA.

[Newaire1]

Just called customer service, it’s not recommended to extend the hitch over 12 inches and they prefer you stay under 6 inches. So my drop hitch already moves it out the max recommended!
The rep told me they see more damage from extending the hitch from its effect on safety cables and hookups and the road harmonics and instability amplify greatly with any extension. So there it is, answers from the pros.
Looks like tight turns are going to be something to be mindful of.
Common sense told me extending it out may create issues, but I was hoping.
Keep an eye on your safety cables, very sharp angles on the TOAD can have those getting a longer pull.

[turbopilot]

Originally Posted by Newaire1

Just called customer service, it’s not recommended to extend the hitch over 12 inches and they prefer you stay under 6 inches.

Thanks. My extension is 7" right now, may not need it with the new tow bar which is 10" longer than the old one. Will mock it up again tomorrow when I install new tow bar.

[Newaire1]

Well I emailed for an answer as well as called. Email answer slightly different the the phone answer. Hmm?
Here is the email response.



William,

You can use a 12” extension. With adding another piece to the set up you might consider using hitch immobilizers. That will reduce the slop that is created when you have more than one hitch.





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[turbopilot]

Originally Posted by Newaire1

You can use a 12” extension. With adding another piece to the set up you might consider using hitch immobilizers. That will reduce the slop that is created when you have more than one hitch.

That's what I did with the 7" extension. Because of the design of the Newmar receiver I had to use two different types of immobilizers.