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Old 05-03-2013, 07:11 AM   #1
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No brake lights on TOAD

Hoping someone can point me in the right direction and save me sometime troubleshooting this problem, First trip out this year and when we arrived at our destination I noticed that I had lost the power at the 7 pin plug (on the Coach) for the turn signals and the brake lights.........everything else works ok even on the Coach, lost power at the plug. Any ideas ?
Is there a fuse somewhere for the brake lights and brake lights?
I am working on getting my manuals out and start looking at them but you know who is still sleeping and the manuals are in there
I was just hoping that someone had this go on and the could tell me what to do or look for. Thank you
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For TOAD lights, my debug usually goes in this order:
1. check the ground wire(s)
2. check the fuses. Can be blade, in line, or even push buttons. Usually located in the front of the coach (side cubby, genset access area, or under the dash)
3. If you find a fuse blown, check the TOAD as a short may have caused it to blow (or even a bulb that burned out).

Good luck!
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Maybe this will help with diagnosis

http://www.irv2.com/forums/f101/no-b...or-159714.html
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Mine required a new converter last year. Something like this. Not sure exactly which one it was as I had it done.
http://m.autozone.com/autozone-mobil...2o?switch=true
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Do you KNOW there is no power at the plug? I have had problems with mine and found if the plug was wiggled the lights would work ...poor contact on the pins in the plug. You can spread the pins a bit and improve connections by gently inserting a thin blade into the slits of each pin and widening the gap.
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And here is another current thread where the same problem is being discussed.

http://www.irv2.com/forums/f115/no-p...ch-159150.html

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My Dutch Star had those fuses in a small compartment just behind the right rear wheel.

There were also fuses behind a black panel in the power bay.
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That happened to us on our Kountry Star. We have a 7 to 6 pin adapter on the coach to the electrical connector to the toad. We found that one pin had worn down so were did not have break lights on the toad. Just went to auto zone and got another adapter. So you might want to take a close look at the pins. Good Luck.
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My Dutch Star had those fuses in a small compartment just behind the right rear wheel.

There were also fuses behind a black panel in the power bay.
You were dead on Route 66, passenger side behind the rear wheel, compartment, there are 2 fuse blocks, in one on the left the brake fuse, blown. Replaced it and everything OK now! Thanks to everyone for the reply's!
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Check the connections on the plugs of your ext cable. They have had a lot of them that the screws weren't tight on the wires from the factory and they work loose and short out. Been through that. Also sometimes Newmar puts a hot wire with another fuse on top of the batteries so the brake lights work even if the key is off. (And they ain't labeled)
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OK, Thank you , I had the 4 ways on in the Coach and went to plug the cord in and that is when the fuse blew. I will stick to waiting till its plugged in then do my light check. Something must of happened when plugging in that the 15 amp. fuse did not like. Everything is OK now .
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OK, Thank you , I had the 4 ways on in the Coach and went to plug the cord in and that is when the fuse blew. I will stick to waiting till its plugged in then do my light check. Something must of happened when plugging in that the 15 amp. fuse did not like. Everything is OK now .


I think the main reason for having ALL 12 VDC power off is that when inserting the plug into the receptacle, it's not likely that all lugs make good contact at the very same time. So quite possibly one circuit got overloaded or maybe didn't have the proper ground or something really weird.

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Old 05-04-2013, 07:14 PM   #13
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That is just what I was thinking happened Richard, From now on I am going to wait till I am plugged in for the test. I was trying to take a short cut and it didn't work out for me. Thanks for the reply.
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