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03-02-2019, 09:33 AM
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No power in rear bath outlets, central vac, bedroom window awning, patio awning
We have no power to the outlets in the rear bath, central vac, bedroom outlets and window awning, or patio awnings. GFCI have all been checked and replaced the GFCI outlet in the mid-bath because would not reset, but it is still tripping almost immediately after resetting. All the breakers inside the coach that I am aware of are good. Doesn't matter if we are on shore power or generator. Everything else, lighting, fans, etc still all appear to be working fine in the areas where the outlets quit working. Ideas to trouble shoot, diagram for wiring in 2018 KA?
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03-02-2019, 09:56 AM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
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You can unplug items and then keep resetting the GFCI until it quits tripping. That should identify the issue, like the rear awning.
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03-02-2019, 02:56 PM
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Did you wire something into a circuit and then this started happening? Odd that "it just started happening" but was working before. Has it been raining a lot?
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03-02-2019, 02:58 PM
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Have you checked the breaker on the inverter ?
GFCIs won't reset unless they have power going to them.
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03-02-2019, 07:33 PM
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Yes drove in rain for 3 days. Even had a bay door connection get wet and pop open while driving. I disconnected that bay door connection, seems to be okay now.
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03-02-2019, 07:34 PM
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How and where would I check the breaker for the inverter?
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03-02-2019, 07:36 PM
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Any recommendations on what to start unplugging? I have done some of the more obvious connections, but not sure what I am unplugging if I do any more and I don't want to mess something else up.
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03-02-2019, 07:58 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
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Since you identified what is not working, you would unplug all those items and then reset the GFCI. If it holds, you start plugging the items back in, one at a time. If the GFCI blows during this, you'll know what item is causing the issue and then go from there.
It sounds like something got wet. What is in the bay that the door came open....vacuum? Plugs for awnings?. That is where I would start looking for what might have gotten wet.
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03-02-2019, 08:03 PM
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It was the water bay, but the plug ins for the water bay door are in the battery bay/compartment, which is really odd, because that is exposed to water from the road. Is there a resource that would tell me where the items are plugged in if it is not obvious by just looking or not labeled? Thank you for your assistance!
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03-02-2019, 08:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bpainter00
It was the water bay, but the plug ins for the water bay door are in the battery bay/compartment, which is really odd, because that is exposed to water from the road. Is there a resource that would tell me where the items are plugged in if it is not obvious by just looking or not labeled? Thank you for your assistance!
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GFI's control any outlet that is within 6' of a water source. Outside and ground level storage is considered a water source.
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03-02-2019, 08:28 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
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I'm not familiar with a King Aire, but most everything plugged in, inside the bays, is typically for things like the vacuum, awnings, HDMI splitters. I don't think you'll hurt anything to unplug items in the bay. Unplug them and see if the GFCI resets.
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04-08-2019, 06:28 PM
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The GFI we replaced was "bad". Changed out GFI plug again in mid bath...all came back to life.
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04-08-2019, 10:01 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
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Glad you got it fixed. A spare GFCI may be a good thing to keep onboard.
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