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02-05-2021, 03:33 PM
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Oasis Summer Loop failure
On my 2019 Ventana 4037, my Oasis System just indicated a “Summer Loop” fault, in order to get hot water I need to run the system on “bypass”, question I have is simply how long can I run it on Bypass? I am 2 weeks out from my shop service date and they will replace the pump...
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02-05-2021, 03:38 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Tiffin Owners Club Entegra Owners Club
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Hi - Just plan your hot water use around a schedule and turn it on when needed. If you are in a cold enough climate to run the house heat you can co-ordinate with that as well.
Tom
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2022 Anthem 44B
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02-05-2021, 03:39 PM
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Senior Member
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You can run it in "bypass" as long as you want. The only downside is that you are pumping fluid around your heater outlets continuously and the cabinets will get warm. Not really a problem this time of year.
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2015 Newmar Ventana 4311 - wheelchair accessible
2015 Cadillac SRX Luxury AWD
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02-06-2021, 06:05 AM
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BGA
My summer loop also recently died, I will be replacing it myself ( Newmar payed for it ). Per ITR after using the bypass switch ALWAYS turn it off. A couple of things that I learned not having the summer loop. If you are in a cold climate and need to heat the coach use the Oasis system, not the heat pumps. You don't need to use the bypass switch. The system will heat your water. I also found the electric elements are good enough to get a shower in. Hope this helps..
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2020 London Aire 4543
2019 Dodge Ram 1500. Emerald Isle NC/ Old Beau Roaring Gap NC
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02-06-2021, 09:45 PM
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Senior Member
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Since the Summer Loop pumps don't seem to last very long, I'm waiting to get mine on my 2015 DS replaced for the second time, I've always wondered how long the other heater pumps are going to last if also used with the By-Pass switch. They surely get a lot of use heating the coach if the coach is used full time and in cold weather a lot.
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2017 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
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02-07-2021, 06:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wagonmaster2
Since the Summer Loop pumps don't seem to last very long, I'm waiting to get mine on my 2015 DS replaced for the second time, I've always wondered how long the other heater pumps are going to last if also used with the By-Pass switch. They surely get a lot of use heating the coach if the coach is used full time and in cold weather a lot.
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My summer loop failed. I replaced that with the new design pump from ITR. Then the zone 1 failed. I ordered two more new pumps and replaced both zone 1 and 2 pumps as I didn’t want to have to go in there a third time. Kept the one working original pump for a spare. Has been over a year and no more zone faults. Expensive repair caused by inferior designed original pumps that shorted out.
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2016 DSDP 4369, Freightliner Chassis, AF One brake system, 2016 Chevy Equinox
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02-07-2021, 07:08 PM
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What year model did they change to the new design pumps?
Ted.
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02-07-2021, 07:33 PM
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Newmar Owners Club Winnebago Owners Club Spartan Chassis RV Trip Wizard
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Question, does the summer loop pump run when the heating elements are off? We keep our coach plugged in between trips, but with all the Oasis heating elements off. Should I be going out and turning the power off at the unit in the basement?
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2019 Mountain Aire 4018
Toad 2014 Honda CRV or 2019 GMC Canyon
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02-07-2021, 08:13 PM
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[QUOTE=mbrooking;5627442]Question, does the summer loop pump run when the heating elements are off? We keep our coach plugged in between trips, but with all the Oasis heating elements off. Should I be going out and turning the power off at the unit in the basement?[/QUOTE
I'm certainly no expert on the Oasis as I have many questions myself. But as I understand the Summer Loop pump only runs when a faucet or shower is turned on and only will have hot water there if the heating elements or burner is on or has recently been on, or if the engine has been running recently. If I have goofed here someplace hopefully one of our more educated members can come to our rescue.
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02-07-2021, 08:24 PM
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Just a note here - this pump may last longer and is sure a better value - https://www.amazon.com/s?k=1K0965561...ref=nb_sb_noss
Just a thought,
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Location - Grasonville, Maryland - and/or - Superior, Colorado
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02-07-2021, 11:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vickie 4369
What year model did they change to the new design pumps?
Ted.
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Ted I purchased my pumps in the fall of 2018. They are definitely more well built. The old style pump I think said GR on the label. The new style says ITR on it.
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Tigerfan1
2016 DSDP 4369, Freightliner Chassis, AF One brake system, 2016 Chevy Equinox
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02-08-2021, 07:22 AM
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Junior Member
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What is the specific pump you are making reference too?
Brad
2019 Ventana 4037
2019 Chevy Traverse
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02-08-2021, 07:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigerfan1
Ted I purchased my pumps in the fall of 2018. They are definitely more well built. The old style pump I think said GR on the label. The new style says ITR on it.
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Thank you sir.
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My name is Ted, My coach 2019 NEWMAR Ventana 4369 (Vickie) Cummins L9 451 Horsepower.
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02-08-2021, 07:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BGA
What is the specific pump you are making reference too?
Brad
2019 Ventana 4037
2019 Chevy Traverse
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They are the pumps for the Oasis heating system. There are three. One summer loop pump for hot water and two heat zone pumps. Early pumps had a high failure rate. New design pumps from ITR seem to be much more reliable. I would imagine your 2019 has the new pumps.
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