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Old 01-24-2010, 12:17 PM   #1
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Porcelain Tile

Has anyone undertaken to remove the carpet in the living area and replace it with porcelain tile?

I am considering doing this work but I would like to get some feedback from people who have done it. What I am looking for are:
1) Were the rollers under the large slide-out changed for smaller one?
2) What sizes of rollers were used?
3) Can you use rollers other than Newmar's?
4) Did you have to adjust the slide-out after installation?
5) Has an electrical grid been installed under the tiles for heating?
6) Considering the flex in the floor, what make of cement did you use to overcome this problem?
7) Any potential areas that may turn out to be a problem?

Your help will be greatly appreciated?

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Old 01-24-2010, 03:02 PM   #2
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Hi Gaetan,

Neat the top of this thread there is a search feature. Not the search this thread but farther up the page to search the entire forum. If you search on "porcelain tile" you'll get a bunch of threads on this subject.
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5) Has an electrical grid been installed under the tiles for heating?
6) Considering the flex in the floor, what make of cement did you use to overcome this problem?
You can install an electric heat pad in the floor. SunTouch Floor Warming 10 Ft. x 30 In. (25 Sq.Ft.) Radiant Floor Warming Mat (120V) - 12001030R at The Home DepotYou will have to follow manufacturers directions. If you click on "More Info" you will find a download. Read it.

You need to use a flexible polymer modified motor mix. Look for something that says it is for use over flexible plywood subflooring. And try to refrain from using large tiles. The smaller tiles (8" or smaller) will hold up better and combined with the flexible grout and adhesives, will resist popping better. Don't use marble or travertine.
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I undertook this same job in November when we arrived for the winter here in Florida. It's a major undertaking, IMO. Tore out the carpeting and found that Newmar lays a 3/8 inch underlayment under the ceramic in front of the sink/counter/cooktop. This was confirmed by talking to Newmar in one of many calls. I had to install 3/8 underlayment to bring the new tile flush with the old tile. After installing the new tile in place of the carpet I had to adapt the "ramp" that the rollers came up on as the driver's slide is a flat floor slide. The cement that I used had the highest latex content that Lowes carried. This for elasticity. The rollers have to be replaced with a 3/8" thinner diameter roller. There are five on our slide. I have them on order now as the first replacement rollers that came from Newmar were the wrong ones. They're not cheap. About $56.00 each. Did not put electric heat under the new ceramic, so can't comment there. If you have ceramic in front of your appliances and also at front by the steps, you will probably see that the lines between the two are not in alignment. We installed a 2" wide ceramic border around the sink, counter, cooktop tile and then installed the 12 X 12 tiles. The border kind of distinguishes the "kitchen" from the "living" area. Everyone that looks at the coach now thinks it looks great. We think that the coach seems bigger in the living/kitchen area. Would I do it again? It's a lot of tedious work. Cutting tile around around the front seats, at angles up front, around the steering column, and etc. after doing the same for the sub floor is a challenge. Especially being full timers with a limited tool supply. But it was worth it. There are some other forums to look at as one of the other people replied. Good luck.
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Shadrock,
Did you replace the tile in the front entry or just use the same type tile and continue it toward the kitchen?
Can you post a picture of your new flooring?
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No, I did not replace the entry tile. My wife picked out a contrasting ceramic tile to what came with the coach. That's the reason that the 2" border was installed. To break the lines from the kitchen ceramic to the entry ceramic. I have not got the foggiest idea how to attach a picture to this reply. BUT, either this afternoon or tomorrow morning, I will do my best to find someone here in the park that can. Have patience with a computer illiterate.
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Maybe this'll work. And maybe it won't. But I'm trying. Take note of the border around the old ceramic to the new and the contrasting colors and highlights. The coach does seem larger and it's so much easier to clean now.
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No, I did not replace the entry tile. My wife picked out a contrasting ceramic tile to what came with the coach. That's the reason that the 2" border was installed. To break the lines from the kitchen ceramic to the entry ceramic. I have not got the foggiest idea how to attach a picture to this reply. BUT, either this afternoon or tomorrow morning, I will do my best to find someone here in the park that can. Have patience with a computer illiterate.
Thanks for your reply. I will be looking forward to your pictures. I have
been thinking about putting tile in my living area, for years, but thought
it would be too much expense and labor to remove the original tile in the
entry,kitchen and bathroom.
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I just saw the pictures. it looks great.
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Thank you to all who have provided some comments.

There is still one thing that bothers me and it is the floor which I believe is a chip board construction. From what I read it is not very good for tiling. I read that an Anti-Fracture Membrane may be applied over the chip board and this membrane may help. Does anyone have experience with membrane or have simply tiled over chipboard? Your comments would be appreciated.

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In my discussions with Jeff at Newmar and also an EMail from them, Newmar does lay the ceramic floors on a 3/8" CDX base over the floor. That's what I had to lay in order to bring the new ceramic level with the factory installed floor. Hope this may help. The biggest problem, though, is getting the right rollers for the big, flat floor, slide.
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Consider Congoleum Duraceramic. We put it in our kitchen in the S&B house. It looks just like ceramic tile and you can grout it, too.

It's flexible, which is good in an RV, it's lighter and softer to the touch.

We had several factory ceramic tiles crack in out Ventana. They were replaced under warranty.

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WOW, nice pics, BEAUTIFUL job. Was at first kinda skeptical when you described adding contrasting tile continuing from the existing, but man!!...it looks GREAT! Nice job guys!!. .....So, ya gonna hire out??? Steve & Lynette
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Hello Shadrack,

We have been talking about getting rid of carpet and replacing it with tile. Our carpet is on the dinning/seating side or our MH. The work you did is outstanding and gives us some motivation to undertake this project. Thanks for sharing.
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