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08-31-2021, 03:08 PM
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Privacy: How do you deal with gaps in driver/passenger side shades
OK, this is something that really bugs my wife, even though the reality is they would only see little slivers of us.
In the Ventana, the night shades leave a 3/4" to 1" or so gap where if you are in front of the coach, you can see inside. I've been hanging some blackout curtains with suction cups in the evening, but that's a pain in the butt.
Has anyone come up with a clever solution, or just deal with it.
I know someone previously posted a picture of what they did in a Dutch Star or other, where they got wood from Newmar to block the area, but on the Ventana 4369, that solution doesn't work due to where the thermostat is.
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08-31-2021, 03:10 PM
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Can you add some pictures of the gaps?
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08-31-2021, 03:49 PM
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My coach is up at Newmar (I'm not), so can't take pictures, but I found this picture that kind of shows it.
My driver's side gap isn't as bad as in this photo, maybe because it isn't all the way down, I think it shifts back as you pull it down (or maybe they don't have the coach level and it's leaning in), but the gaps you see on the passenger side is what I'm trying to deal with. Not the bottom of course, as that's not all the way down, but instead the gap between the window/door frame and the blackout.
They aren't big gaps, but they still bug my wife. I have a similar size gap on the drivers side when the shade is fully down. When standing outside, such as someone walking by, you can see into the living room through those gaps.
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08-31-2021, 04:17 PM
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When I first received the coach I noticed that right away. It bothered the DW more than me. I went outside in the dark and tried to see what was visible inside the coach. The visible areas you can see inside the coach are extremely small. A person would have to be standing in one spot for very long periods of time to even get a glimpse of virtually nothing.
I am fully confident that you can walk around inside your coach buck naked.
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08-31-2021, 04:26 PM
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As you mentioned on some models including our old MADP have the wood surround that blocks that area. You mentioned limited space due to the thermostat. What about a couple sheet metal angled pieces? Could be covered in vinyl or painted and take up less real estate than the wood versions.
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08-31-2021, 04:28 PM
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Considering the age and physical condition of most RV campers I doubt that there are many who would be interested in peeping...
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08-31-2021, 04:28 PM
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As a second thought MCD offers 2 versions of shades unwinding on the glass side or the inside. If yours are on the inside then the gap would be large. On all of our shades they unwind next to glass so even wood they are tighter against the window.
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08-31-2021, 05:19 PM
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Our solution is cheap and simple. One the driver side we use a clothespin clipped to the window frame ridge to hold the shade back. Clipped up high, leaving the only gap at the top at the level of the valence. The passenger side doesn't work well with the clothespin. We can usually close that gap by pressing the edge of the shade slightly to the left and into the window frame, where it is held back by the small ridge of the inner window frame. I just figured out how to attach photos, but they are sideways. Left side is supposed to be the top of the photo.
Credit for this idea goes to my DW.
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08-31-2021, 05:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brews Cruise
Our solution is cheap and simple. One the driver side we use a clothespin clipped to the window frame ridge to hold the shade back. Clipped up high, leaving the only gap at the top at the level of the valence. The passenger side doesn't work well with the clothespin. We can usually close that gap by pressing the edge of the shade slightly to the left and into the window frame, where it is held back by the small ridge of the inner window frame. I have photos but I cannot figure out how to attach them here.
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I think I follow. I've tried something similar on the drivers side, but maybe the clips I was using were as good as a longer clothes pin.
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08-31-2021, 05:31 PM
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What about using small patches of velcro on the edge of the shade and the window frame ?
Mike in Colorado
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08-31-2021, 05:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tnedator
I think I follow. I've tried something similar on the drivers side, but maybe the clips I was using were as good as a longer clothes pin.
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I figured out how to add photos and edited my original post to show photos using the clothespin
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08-31-2021, 05:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brews Cruise
I figured out how to add photos and edited my original post to show photos using the clothespin
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I tried using some plastic spring clips, but maybe they aren't long enough or the end doesn't work, because my result wasn't as good. That would work for drivers side.
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08-31-2021, 05:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spk64
You need to make a small edit on your phone then save the picture. This will reset the orientation to “Normal”. Then upload.
Or if you use the iRV2 app it will take fix the orientation automatically.
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Thanks Steve. I had moved the photos from my phone to the computer before posting. I'll make sure I edit them beforehand or use the IRV2 app to upload the photos,
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08-31-2021, 05:45 PM
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Privacy: How do you deal with gaps in driver/passenger side shades
[mention]Dutch Star Don [/mention] did a nice angle cut from plastic then Velcro’d to the wall.
But seriously, do this…
YOU stand buck naked, right there in the salon.
Now, have your wife go outside and just TRY to see in…let alone see much. (No insult intended!)
In the day, the tinting makes it nearly impossible to see in.
At night, only the brightest INTERIOR lights combined with the DARKEST outside will give anyone a hint of a peep show.
And, at the low angle of a passer-by liking upwards, all they will see is your upper chest.
This little drill was enough to settle my mind from spending a minute of work to fix a problem that wasn’t a problem…at least not for us!
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