Safe T Plus ?

[stevenapril]

I've been told by several people that this is well worth the money to reduce the sway from wind and passing trucks for my 2023 Bay Star 3014. I'd appreciate advice from those that have had this installed in terms of its effect. I'd also like to know what it cost parts and labor. Thanks!

[F4Gary]

The parts cost whatever you can find on the internet. It is pretty easy to put on, many of us did it ourselves. A competent truck shop should be able to do it in an hour.
Adding more caster and a SafeTPlus eliminated the constant steering corrections going down the road. I now have one handed driving instead of a two handed death grip on the steering wheel.
Also like the original intended purpose of assisting with a blowout.


A rear track bar helps with the passing truck sway.

[BillJinOR]

On the newer chassis for truck passing sway I agree and I’d think a track bar would be a better choice.
I had the safetplus installed at their new shop in Florida for about 700 bucks , installation free when buying from them but you can buy it cheaper online. And install it yourself if you know what your doing.
I was there an hour including a test drive with the tech who had me drive and asked questions hopping out to adjust it on the side of the road based on my input. It firms up the steering. ( and is a safety in case of blowout helping control the front steering)
I have a 2023 22k chassis and 35’ other brand mh and don’t notice trucks passing much. But ….. It wasn’t a problem before the safe t plus . I came from a 42’ tag axle DP .. I know “floating” smooth handling and the gasser certainly isn’t that but it’s absolutely not “a handful” nor even like the older f53 I have driven that was “twitchy “

[Dutch Star Don]

Always do one thing at a time. If it were me, the very first purchase would be a Trac Bar. Your rearend can move side to side while driving and when it rebounds, it forces the front end to move side to side. Locking up that rear end up with a Trac Bar may be all you need.

[creativepart]

Fully agree the steering stabilizer is a very worthwhile addition. I would call it a requirement. Installation for me was $375. Well worth it to keep from getting down there under the RV and getting those bolts tight enough.

It won't solve the truck blow by all that much, but the seesawing of the wheel will definitely go away. You'll arrive less tired.

A rear Trackbar (panhard rod is what it really is) is supposed to really help and I'm sure it does. I skipped that and added the heavy duty 2nd sway bar (it's really an anti-sway or anti-roll bar) helped truck wash for me - while helping cornering, too.

[LETMGROW]

Originally Posted by stevenapril

I've been told by several people that this is well worth the money to reduce the sway from wind and passing trucks for my 2023 Bay Star 3014. I'd appreciate advice from those that have had this installed in terms of its effect. I'd also like to know what it cost parts and labor. Thanks!

I installed a Safe-T-Plus on my coach the second year I owned the coach. While I did see an improvement it the amount of "Tail Wag" it wasn't the end all. While I feel I added some protection in the case of a front tire blow out the sway from the rear wasn't much improved.
By far the larger improvement to control the "Tail Wag" was the installation of the "Tiger Track" rear Trac Bar I purchased from "Ultra RV".
My coach doesn't handle like it was on rails but it is definitely more comfortable to drive any distance and my hands don't go to sleep from squeezing the steering wheel so tightly when the big rigs go by me or in a strong cross wind.
I did my own installations myself right in my own driveway.

[BayRunner]

When I had a coach on the F53 chassis, I installed sumo springs (front only), Safe-T-Plus, rear trac bar, and Koni shocks all within a week time. Made a world of difference and it drove like a different coach. Was easy to drive even with big trucks passing. Folks tend to overlook the sumo springs on the front but they help firm up front control with passing trucks. I installed those first and they really helped., All the rest put the icing on the cake. Cost a bit but well with the investment.

[twinboat]

Originally Posted by LETMGROW

I installed a Safe-T-Plus on my coach the second year I owned the coach. While I did see an improvement it the amount of "Tail Wag" it wasn't the end all. While I feel I added some protection in the case of a front tire blow out the sway from the rear wasn't much improved.
By far the larger improvement to control the "Tail Wag" was the installation of the "Tiger Track" rear Trac Bar I purchased from "Ultra RV".
My coach doesn't handle like it was on rails but it is definitely more comfortable to drive any distance and my hands don't go to sleep from squeezing the steering wheel so tightly when the big rigs go by me or in a strong cross wind.
I did my own installations myself right in my own driveway.

How could a steering stabilizer improve tail wag ?
It's holding the front wheels in a straight ahead position, 25 plus feet from the rear axle.

Like you said, a track bar limits Tail Wag, actually called yaw.

[GW4607]

I assume you have had a four corner weigh and tire pressure is set correctly??
That would be step one…..and the least expensive

[MrMark52]

1. Track bar

2. SafTPlus

[Dutch Star Don]

I will caution you about adding too many items at once. As I mentioned earlier, do one thing at a time and see how it works out. A few years ago, my sister and brother-in-law bought a new Fleetwood Southwind. It swapped to the thicker sway bar up front, added a second sway bar in the rear, Trac Bar, new shocks and Sumo springs. It cornered like it was on tracks, but now rode like a tank.

[stevenapril]

Originally Posted by Dutch Star Don

I will caution you about adding too many items at once. As I mentioned earlier, do one thing at a time and see how it works out. A few years ago, my sister and brother-in-law bought a new Fleetwood Southwind. It swapped to the thicker sway bar up front, added a second sway bar in the rear, Trac Bar, new shocks and Sumo springs. It cornered like it was on tracks, but now rode like a tank.

I agree with your logic, although given the number of 30' motorhomes on F53 chassis out there you'd think someone has figured out the most cost efficient way to solve the obvious problems with this platform without adding more stuff that what's absolutely required.

[BayRunner]

Originally Posted by Dutch Star Don

I will caution you about adding too many items at once. As I mentioned earlier, do one thing at a time and see how it works out. A few years ago, my sister and brother-in-law bought a new Fleetwood Southwind. It swapped to the thicker sway bar up front, added a second sway bar in the rear, Trac Bar, new shocks and Sumo springs. It cornered like it was on tracks, but now rode like a tank.

Don, sounds like your sister had the prior F53 model chassis with the V10. The newer V8 chassis comes with a thicker front sway bar which helped quite a bit. An additional rear sway bar in the rear is not needed on this model. Based on experience I would not hesitate for a second and found the best combination for the newer chassis is front sumos, safe-t-plus, rear trac bar and 4 point Koni shocks. This made a remarkable difference and did not drive like a tank.

[stevenapril]

Originally Posted by BayRunner

Don, sounds like your sister had the prior F53 model chassis with the V10. The newer V8 chassis comes with a thicker front sway bar which helped quite a bit. An additional rear sway bar in the rear is not needed on this model. Based on experience I would not hesitate for a second and found the best combination for the newer chassis is front sumos, safe-t-plus, rear trac bar and 4 point Koni shocks. This made a remarkable difference and did not drive like a tank.

So something like this Stage 2 kit?

https://www.ultrarvproducts.com/Stag...R-Handling-Kit