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04-18-2019, 06:07 PM
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Scratches
Well I'm kicking myself in the butt!! Misread moppins wash kit and used microfiber towel to dry RV! Now there scratches! Is there a way to remove scratches? Newmar Baystar
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04-18-2019, 06:38 PM
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I don’t think microfiber can scratch anything?
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04-18-2019, 06:42 PM
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It spider looking swirls on the paint. Newmar does state no microfiber rags.
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04-18-2019, 07:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by micbob4
It spider looking swirls on the paint. Newmar does state no microfiber rags.
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Huh!?!?
A Copy & Paste directly from my Dutch Star manual:
“You can also use fresh microfiber towels for drying. Please use caution, as these towels are made partially with polyester (plastic), which can break down over time from extended use and washing, eventually causing damage to the clear coat finish.”
The only two cautions is to let the pain cure for 3 months, and like all paint, proper washing products are paramount.
That said, not all microfiber is created equal. I never use the cheap bulk crap from the big box stores on any of my vehicles. Only professional stuff from vendors like Adams.
Can your swirls be removed? ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!
A smart polishing compound is what you need, along with an RO polisher. Again, if you want to do it, go to Adams polishes and they will have everything you need!
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04-18-2019, 10:54 PM
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Old School here. Use California large water blade (silicone surgical rubber) and real shammy to dry off coach, never got scratches by doing that. Don't trust microfiber towels on anything I can see myself in. 100% cotton baby diaper to wipe off all tv's, Pc monitors, and any glass surface we don't want to scratch. Baby diapers are great, used to be able to buy them at sears, now it's amazon, a case of 24 will last you the rest of your life.
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04-19-2019, 12:14 AM
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Microfiber towels definitely DO scratch. We'd never used them on a vehicle.
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04-19-2019, 12:25 AM
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I use brand new micro fiber towels to wash and dry my DS. Only use for a small section then change them often, I wash them and use them for other things after.
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04-19-2019, 05:53 AM
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When we had our Baystar, I used a soft brush to wash it and ended up with micro scratches all over the coach. Used This to remove them and it worked great.
https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/838...&odnBg=ffffffd
Don't use microfiber though, it will do the same thing as the brush.
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04-19-2019, 08:36 AM
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Will look for a good mobile detailer to remove surface scratches.
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05-01-2019, 08:14 PM
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People with cars more expensive than our RVs use microfiber to clean/dry, that should tell you something.
Also, if using something like the lambswool, make sure you have multiple and wash them, what's far more dangerous is retained dirt/grit in whatever you use.
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05-01-2019, 08:22 PM
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Micro Fiber
I have also read on the Griot's web site not to wash micro fiber cloths with other cotton cloths. They recommend using a micro fiber cleaning solution as well. I agree with a previous post that some scratching might be happening with the very cheap micro fiber cloths but I have been using them on my cars for a number of years now and they do the best job.
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05-01-2019, 09:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Earl II
I have also read on the Griot's web site not to wash micro fiber cloths with other cotton cloths. They recommend using a micro fiber cleaning solution as well. I agree with a previous post that some scratching might be happening with the very cheap micro fiber cloths but I have been using them on my cars for a number of years now and they do the best job. 
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I buy decent microfiber from car detailing sites (cheap stuff for other uses dusting in the house), and then we clean them separate of other items and use microfiber rejuvinator. Recently, I started storing them in clean plastic tubs after cleaning them (that was a tip from Aero wash wax all).
When I'm washing my car (Audi Q7) I will use about 8 wash mits. Even though I do a two bucket wash, I still change to a clean mit every panel or so, and then I use some dedicated "black" ones for wheels and rocker panel.
I'm very skeptical that someone using one or two lambswool on an entire RV can not get cross contamination (grit) in the wool that would lead to scratches. Also, how effectively can you clean lambswool between washes?
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05-01-2019, 09:28 PM
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Microfibre will scratch the clear coat on our newmars. The clear coat is very very soft. Darker colors, quality of micro fiber, how its used all play into it.
A microfiber should be used in a single motion one swipe, and then rotated to a clean section. Think of proper handkerchief management, and that is how you should use the microfiber.
Even taking these preacutions, my 2019 DSDP clearcoat was damaged by microfiber during the paint correction process. The lead detailer had to leave for the day, he was so upset once he realized what he had done. Added 2 more days of paint correction to fix it.
I use microfiber on my RV, boats, cars, and interior taking extreme precaution and for washing only, keeping it very wet. I do not dry, instead I use DI water.
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