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Old 01-14-2018, 09:59 AM   #1
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Should I be concerned re freezing water line to front of coach?

Hello, all. Our new VT 3407 has the optional hot water line to the generator compartment. We often camp in the spring and fall when it's freezing, temperatures in the teens are not uncommon for us. I wouldn't be concerned usually if it went all the way down to zero (f). We don't winterize, we keep the coach heated.

My concern is with this coach, the exposed water line to the front freezing. It's open to the air from the point where it exits the basement and goes over the fuel tank area and generator compartment. Seems to me that could easily freeze in camp. And even more so if we're driving in freezing temperatures with the air movement through that space going down the highway.

So firstly, is this a valid concern? If it is, how best to mitigate it? I'm thinking of putting a three way valve where it sources water in the wet bay (I presume) so I could isolate that line and blow it dry with compressed air.

Thank you for your thoughts.
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There should be a shut off in the basement between the frame rails. Then you just open the drain up front. The shut off is usually drivers side in compartment in front of the water bay or electric bay.
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Thank you! Found the valve in the basement, just as you said, hiding behind some wiring.

It appears the line retains some water between the basement and the front connection (not much came out the front drain) but I'm optimistic the forces of driving and braking will shake most of that water out.
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Thank you! Found the valve in the basement, just as you said, hiding behind some wiring.

It appears the line retains some water between the basement and the front connection (not much came out the front drain) but I'm optimistic the forces of driving and braking will shake most of that water out.
Make sure it's the water to front and not the ice maker also located in the area. If the valve is open even if it freezes it should not harm the line.
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Thank you! Found the valve in the basement, just as you said, hiding behind some wiring.

It appears the line retains some water between the basement and the front connection (not much came out the front drain) but I'm optimistic the forces of driving and braking will shake most of that water out.
Is this cutoff valve in the wet bay compartment where the furnace or Oasis will heat it?

I guess my bigger question is whether there is anything outside of the wetbay (obviously other than the line to the front spigot being discussed) that is in the other basement compartments that could freeze and cause damage?
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The cutoff is in the bay next to the furnace. No other lines to worry about I know of.
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If you are thinking of a line that goes from the Oasis to the front, Oasis fluid is not water, it's antifreeze. The Oasis heats the fluid, which in turn heats the water. So, you need to drain your water lines. You do not drain your Oasis fluid lines.
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If you are thinking of a line that goes from the Oasis to the front, Oasis fluid is not water, it's antifreeze. The Oasis heats the fluid, which in turn heats the water. So, you need to drain your water lines. You do not drain your Oasis fluid lines.
No, I was talking about the line that runs from the cutoff to the hot water spigot next to the generator that the OP was asking about.

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The cutoff is in the bay next to the furnace. No other lines to worry about I know of.
Just for clarity, I assume when you say "in the bay" that refers to the heated wet bay. So, part of the Oasis (only with boiler fluid) is in the non heated, and the hot water heat exchange component is in the wet bay?
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Thank you! Found the valve in the basement, just as you said, hiding behind some wiring.

It appears the line retains some water between the basement and the front connection (not much came out the front drain) but I'm optimistic the forces of driving and braking will shake most of that water out.
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Can you elaborate on exactly where the line to the front originates and the routing to the front. My VTDP doesn't have the optional line but I would really like to add one. Is yours hot or cold? - understand they did it both ways but not positive.

I added one to our last WInnie - T'd & valved in HWH / winterization bay so I could leave the line to front w/ pink in it and dewinterize the rest of the MH and use water while traveling in cold Wx. As soon as I got far enough S I could open the valve and flush the pink.
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I optioned it on mine, it's a hot water line. I forgot about it for winterizing so we'll see what happens. Too late now but adding to my future W checklist.
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Can you elaborate on exactly where the line to the front originates and the routing to the front. My VTDP doesn't have the optional line but I would really like to add one. Is yours hot or cold? - understand they did it both ways but not positive.

I added one to our last WInnie - T'd & valved in HWH / winterization bay so I could leave the line to front w/ pink in it and dewinterize the rest of the MH and use water while traveling in cold Wx. As soon as I got far enough S I could open the valve and flush the pink.
Ours is the 3407 floor plan, others may differ? In this case the line to the front tees off the hot water line to the kitchen sink. It's in the basement storage compartment, left side. The first door behind the battery and propane. From there it routes along the left frame rail forward to the generator area.

PS- and a poor job IMO by the factory on this one; the line is unsupported for 6 or 8 feet back from the front fitting; just dangling in the air. I will be fixing that myself.
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