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Old 10-27-2021, 09:45 AM   #1
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Shower leak Help!

Out on vacation took a shower this morning and noticed water on the floor in the right corner opposite the door coming out along the floor everything is dry above it.

I have no Idea how I would find this leak short of completely disassembling the shower.

I am trying to get the water valve cover off so I can see if there are any lose lines leading to the valve but not having any luck, I don't want to break anything.

I removed the lever no problem but there seems to be no way to remove the cover.

Any help will be appreciated.
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OK I figured it out, the 3 inch ring around the valve is held in with an Oring get your fingerails under it and pull it out, the screws are behind it.

All is dry on all the plumbing, stuck my phone camera in there and took 360 degree pictures.

I found the back wall where it meets the pan was not sealed and when I pushed on it water was coming out.

Used compressed air to blow it out, a hair dryer to dry it out, Electric parts cleaner to make sure it was absolutely clean, andd rand a new bead of clear silicone.

I also sealed around the drain the plumbers putty didn't look that great.

I won't know if I got it until the next shower after the sealer dries.

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Old 10-27-2021, 05:24 PM   #3
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Shower leaks are the pits to find sometimes.
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I had shower leaks that Newmar chased for years.
First the pan has lip behind the walls, actually no caulk is needed on the solid walls. The primary source of leaks is a failure to properly caulk where the frame of the glass wall meet the sides. This can actually leak to the inside drop down to the tile under the shower. I had such a leak on the corner where glass frame meets the solid wall with the shower valve. I could see the water on the tile just outside the shower but everything above was dry. Taking off the Oasis vent cover in the bedroom allowed me to see the water coming down. Newmar removed the glass wall and re-caulk. Next the other corner had to be re-caulked. A year later I was getting water on the floor in the corner with the door. At first Newmar's techs insisted the were no screws under aluminum frame, but my tech persisted and removed the frame (again) and found there was a screw through the frame (hidden under the door frame) and that the tech that had fixed the first leak had used a non-stainless steel screw that rusted and allowed the leak. Remember the frame is caulked on the outside but it has weep holes which allow water to get in and out from under the frame.
I now had a shower that doesn't leak!!

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I had shower leaks that Newmar chased for years.
First the pan has lip behind the walls, actually no caulk is needed on the solid walls. The primary source of leaks is a failure to properly caulk where the frame of the glass wall meet the sides. This can actually leak to the inside drop down to the tile under the shower. I had such a leak on the corner where glass frame meets the solid wall with the shower valve. I could see the water on the tile just outside the shower but everything above was dry. Taking off the Oasis vent cover in the bedroom allowed me to see the water coming down. Newmar removed the glass wall and re-caulk. Next the other corner had to be re-caulked. A year later I was getting water on the floor in the corner with the door. At first Newmar's techs insisted the were no screws under aluminum frame, but my tech persisted and removed the frame (again) and found there was a screw through the frame (hidden under the door frame) and that the tech that had fixed the first leak had used a non-stainless steel screw that rusted and allowed the leak. Remember the frame is caulked on the outside but it has weep holes which allow water to get in and out from under the frame.
I now had a shower that doesn't leak!!

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This is great info, Thank you.

You have given me clues of where to look along with a better understaning of how the shower is mounted to the wall and base.

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Ted,

From the Oasis vent you can also use a mirror to check the plumbing connections.

If the leak is at one of the corners where the glass frame attaches to the solid wall, the only way to properly fix it is to remove the glass wall frame.

If this is the source of your leak I would contact Newmar CS and ask them to cover the repair since it would have to be a manufacturing defect.

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Ted,

From the Oasis vent you can also use a mirror to check the plumbing connections.

If the leak is at one of the corners where the glass frame attaches to the solid wall, the only way to properly fix it is to remove the glass wall frame.

If this is the source of your leak I would contact Newmar CS and ask them to cover the repair since it would have to be a manufacturing defect.

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Yes sir had that open today all is dry, I can replicate the leak by spraying the glass, the water must be running along the bottom rail inside then leaking down through one of the mounting screws and coming out under the pan on the floor.

I may just clear seal the seams on the inside of the glass.

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Yes sir had that open today all is dry, I can replicate the leak by spraying the glass, the water must be running along the bottom rail inside then leaking down through one of the mounting screws and coming out under the pan on the floor.



I may just clear seal the seams on the inside of the glass.



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I went ahead and clear sealed the glass walls but I have not had a chance to use the shower since it’s winter
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