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Old 02-19-2015, 11:20 AM   #1
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Starter issues

I have an 07 Newmar Kountry Star with a Cummins engine. It has recently begun to have an issue with starting. When I turn the key, i hear a click but nothing happens. I can repeat and usually about the 3rd time it will start. Is this an issue with the starter relay or some other problem Any information would be helpful.

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I have an 07 Newmar Kountry Star with a Cummins engine. It has recently begun to have an issue with starting. When I turn the key, i hear a click but nothing happens. I can repeat and usually about the 3rd time it will start. Is this an issue with the starter relay or some other problem Any information would be helpful.

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Sounds like a poor connection somewhere. I would crawl under and find the starter. Check all connections on the starter to ensure they are tight. If that solves the problem, great. If not, work your way from the starter to the master switch and to the batteries to make sure all connections are clean and tight.
If you still have a problem, chances are the starter solenoid is the culprit but most often its a loose connection problem.

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Before you apply a wrench to any of these connections, I would remove the Positive Cables off the House and Chassis Batteries to prevent an accidental spark to ground through your wrench.
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Don't forget to check the battery to chassis connection. How good or how old are your batteries?
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The batteries are new
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I did change the batteries and I will chech all of the connections tomorrow. Thanks for the input
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I did change the batteries and I will chech all of the connections tomorrow. Thanks for the input
I need to add a correction to my caution!!

Remove the Negative cables first and then remove the Positive cables. Had a bit of a Senior Moment.
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I tightened all of the battery cables and the issue is better but is still there. The first time I turn the key nothing happens but it starts on the second try. Is this a common issue or should I be looking for another problem
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I think you may need to pull each connection off and clean with a wire brush.

Starting at the starter, every single cable end. You may even have a bad cable.
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As John said there maybe corrosion under one of the battery posts and also check the cables to the chassis frame for all wiring to your frame from inverter/converter, batteries and Gen.
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Anybody think the starter could need to be hit with power a time or two to get it to turn?
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PDR John has the solution that worked for me. I did not find an obvious faulty connection but removal, and wire brushing of each connection on the starter took care of the problem for me.
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After all the cleaning of connections if you still have the same problem, I would remove the starter assembly and have it rebuilt. Problem is either bad solenoid or commutator on the starter armature.
Most common is a poor cable connection but once you rule that out the only other step is the starter.


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Anybody think the starter could need to be hit with power a time or two to get it to turn?

It sure could be. With things like this, it's a process of elimination. Start with most likely and continue towards the more obscure.

If all cables and the connections are good, that moves him down to solenoid and starter.

I never automatically rule anything out till it's proven it's not the problem.
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All above suggestions are a great place to start. Mine and several others on this board have done the same thing and mine got progressively worse. One time blocking the fuel pumps it took me a half hour to get it cranked. Someone on this board posted about the fuse/relay box in the basement compartment just behind the right rear tire. (May be located different on yours) I removed the cover and just pushed in firmly on all the fuses and relays and a couple clicked in just a hair. Remarkably I have never had the problem again in the last year. I know, sounds too easy but so far so good!
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