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07-25-2011, 07:14 PM
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Two Outlets Not Working ?
There are two electrical outlets up front in the cab area on the passenger side. Today I had something plugged into one of them and it was ok for awhile and then just stopped working ?
I checked the second outlet in that area and same thing - nothing. I then checked the fuses and circuit breakers. All were fine ?
I then checked all the other electrical outlets in the rig and they are all working fine.
What am I missing ??
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07-25-2011, 07:23 PM
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The GFCI plug that controls the others. Should be in the bath, reset it and all should be fine
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07-25-2011, 07:32 PM
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You may have two GFI outlets one in bath and one in kitchen.
The one in kitchen maybe on wall or under your top cabinets.
RV GFI's have a problem with wiring becoming loose in connection on outlet and heating connection and melting the plastic that wholes the connection if high AMP appliance has be used in the GFI outlet.
The GFI will be fed out of your load center 2nd picture top pic is your 12V circuits.
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07-25-2011, 08:05 PM
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Yes, I have two GFI outlets - one in kitchen and one in bathroom. Reset both and still those outlets in the front area are not working.
I was using a hair dryer when the outlet stopped working but there was nothing else on ie. a/c or heater etc.
Didn't think to reset the GFI outlets as they were (and are) still working.
Anything else I could try ??
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07-25-2011, 08:12 PM
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Some circuit breakers will not show they need resetting just by looking at them, you need to switch them off, then back on. They will need to be pushed to the "Off" position hard, not just let the switch go, then back to the "On" position.
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07-25-2011, 09:19 PM
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Mr. D, Just reset all circuit breakers, even the 'main' one. Those outlets are still not working ?
I've now taken the plates off to see what they look like and again, everything looks fine ??
I have a little circuit tester so I'm going to check the fuses again.
This is very strange ??
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07-25-2011, 09:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heritage2006
This is very strange ??
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It certainly is!
Now you're going to have to check the GFCI function as it's possible one of them is dead or disconnected. After that it's tracing wiring to the plugs. You might also want to see if the feed line under the slide has gotten pinched. I had to re-route them on our 2000 DSDP as they we not tied in the folding channel correctly and could have broken. The will be in a channel under the slide that has some hinges in them.
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07-25-2011, 10:04 PM
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Mr. D, Ain't gonna tackle something like that by myself !! I can tell you that both GFI outlets are working. And as for a wire being pinched under the slide - well the slide has been out now (not moved) for almost a week and that outlet was working fine until today ?
I'm still thinking it's something simple that I am missing here ??
There's not an over abundance of outlets in this rig (much to my surprise) so having two gone is not great but I can live with it until I can get someone to have a look at it.
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07-25-2011, 10:37 PM
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Go to Lowes, buy a receptacle tester, they are made by Ideal Corporation and cost around ten bucks...........simply plug it into your receptacle and read the lights; it will tell you if you have an open nuetral, bad ground, etc. PROBLEM SOLVED
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07-25-2011, 11:53 PM
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Scgator, I do have a receptacle tester (yes it's seen better days LOL) and when I plug it into those 2 outlets no lights at all ?
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07-26-2011, 12:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heritage2006
Scgator, I do have a receptacle tester (yes it's seen better days LOL) and when I plug it into those 2 outlets no lights at all ?
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Then you have a bad connection someplace (unlikely since no lights are showing although I'm not sure any lights would show if no current is present) or the GFCI is bad. Some Newmar's I've seen also have a GFCI in a breaker box although having both types on a circuit would not seem reasonable.
Not having moved the slide may or may not indicate something as it possible for the wire to have been pinched and just broken even though it's not moved.
If you have a VOM (Volt/Ohm meter), I'd be testing the wires to the plugins for continuity. The plugins are usually wired in series so if there's a break it'll affect more than one plugin.
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07-26-2011, 08:25 AM
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Do you have a inverter? It may not be passing the 110 volts through that is what mine was doing.
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07-26-2011, 08:48 AM
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I had that happen this past weekend, but mine was the GFCI. Is it possible that one of the circuits from the GFCI is bad or somehow disconnected? Also as suggested above, try shutting off the breakers completely and turning them back on. Maybe one didn't reset...Good luck.
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07-26-2011, 08:48 AM
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If you have an inverter often the outlets in the cockpit area (Passanger side usually) are on the inverter.. Now many inverters have a post type (PUSH TO RESET) breaker or two. The rest feed a sub panel (Second breaker box) or at least should.
Question, does your "house" radio and/or front TV also not work? They are often on the very same circuit, and that is the inverter circuit.
Second. a hair dryer is a MAJOR load.
I had a space heater pluged into my inverter powered outlet and after that it did nto work.
Upon inspection (in the inverter's terminal box, that is the one on the inverter) I found a wire nut was not properly on the wire and it had come... disconnected.
What's worse is I know who made that connection last..... ME!
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