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reubenray · 11-17-2016, 04:44 PM

What is the differences for the Ventana to be $35,000+- more?

marknpeg · 11-17-2016, 05:31 PM

Lots of small differences that add up. The Ventana has a little more power/torque, heavier chassis and higher GVWR, twice the NCC, and a much higher towing capacity, and it runs on 22.5" wheels. I also found the interior finishes to be a bit higher. The LE is a very nice coach, but we decided we preferred the Ventana for those reasons.

dp7 · 11-18-2016, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by reubenray

What is the differences for the Ventana to be $35,000+- more?

If you plan to tow, be sure to look at the difference between the GVWR & GCWR on the LE. It is much lower than on the Ventana.

reubenray · 11-18-2016, 03:40 AM

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If you plan to tow, be sure to look at the difference between the GVWR & GCWR on the LE. It is much lower than on the Ventana.

That 2000 pounds is not much to deal with. I will be towing my Equinox, so it may not be that big of a deal. I have been looking a used models, but I am thinking a new LE may be swingable. But I do not want to be where I have to worry about weights all the time.

Surely the LE 3709 has more CCC than the Allegro 31SA that I have now. I do not see how or why I would ever pack more than I have with it.

bwaller · 11-18-2016, 03:49 AM

There were some nice features on the Ventana, however we decided that for the use of our money, the LE was just fine! We pull a Chevy Sonic - 2800 pounds, we carry only stuff we need and use. So any extra carrying capacity was not a concern. We would have liked the induction cooktop but they would not factory do that on the LE.

And, most importantly, I was able to convince my wife to spend for LE and not for Ventana!

Delivery is early to mid December.

tyoneonit · 11-18-2016, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by reubenray

That 2000 pounds is not much to deal with. I will be towing my Equinox, so it may not be that big of a deal. I have been looking a used models, but I am thinking a new LE may be swingable. But I do not want to be where I have to worry about weights all the time.

Surely the LE 3709 has more CCC than the Allegro 31SA that I have now. I do not see how or why I would ever pack more than I have with it.

Sorry for being blatantly self serving on this post, but....If you're looking for a good deal on a very lightly used LE, check out our coach on RVTrader. Ad number is 119980440. Always stored indoors. Have new DS coming in January, so there is a little wiggle room in the pricing.

reubenray · 11-18-2016, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bwaller

There were some nice features on the Ventana, however we decided that for the use of our money, the LE was just fine! We pull a Chevy Sonic - 2800 pounds, we carry only stuff we need and use. So any extra carrying capacity was not a concern. We would have liked the induction cooktop but they would not factory do that on the LE.

And, most importantly, I was able to convince my wife to spend for LE and not for Ventana!

Delivery is early to mid December.

Having an induction cooktop was something that I did not want. I want a propane cooktop. Not having the propane cooktop availabiity turned me away from several brands. I don't want fancy and shiny, but durable. I am assuming the Ventana has ceramic tile in place of vinyl which is just fine with us. My wife loves the vinyl planks.

I had my 31SA weighed on four corners when it had the most stuff we would have ever carried. I was 800 pounds under my CCC of 2,200 pounds. I even had firewood. We also do not want the washer/dryer which weighs a lot.

reubenray · 11-18-2016, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tyoneonit

Sorry for being blatantly self serving on this post, but....If you're looking for a good deal on a very lightly used LE, check out our coach on RVTrader. Ad number is 119980440. Always stored indoors. Have new DS coming in January, so there is a little wiggle room in the pricing.

I am researching early for a possible purchase in 2018 when the wife starts getting her SS.

reubenray · 11-26-2016, 09:13 AM

Would it be safe to assume that any Freightliner chassis with the 340hp may have CCC issues no matter what brand?

gtsum2 · 11-26-2016, 11:23 AM

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Would it be safe to assume that any Freightliner chassis with the 340hp may have CCC issues no matter what brand?

Every one I have seen has been limited on ccc. I have 2800 ccc on my toy hauler and we have been right at it several times....no way a 2000ccc coach would work for our camping:(

Ed Headington · 11-26-2016, 05:59 PM

We currently have a 2013 Ventana LE 34'. I can say that it's load capacity is the best we have ever had on a motorhome. When we load it for travel (which is probably around 1500 pounds), plus full water tank, and towing a 2800 pound car, the total weight INCLUDING the toad, is 1000 pounds UNDER our GVWR for the coach alone.

Ed Headington

Ed Headington · 11-27-2016, 06:38 AM

I see where my confusion comes from. Our 34' Venana LE had an NCC of 5300 pounds, which is higher than any coach we have had. I notice though that the 37' units have an NCC 2000 pounds less. Since you are talking about a 37' unit, I now understand your concern.

Ed Headington

reubenray · 12-01-2016, 06:51 AM

I am surprised that the LE 3709 NCC is about the same as the Canyon Star models. Surely the LE would be more capable of towing our Equinox than the CS would. I am wanting to see some actual CCC weights posted before I write on the LE. As previously posted our 31SA had a CCC of 2200+- and when we had it weighed fully loaded we about 800 lbs left.

I am mainly looking to get more power for going up hill and more braking for coming downhill when we take trips out West.

dp7 · 12-02-2016, 02:12 AM

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I am surprised that the LE 3709 NCC is about the same as the Canyon Star models. Surely the LE would be more capable of towing our Equinox than the CS would. I am wanting to see some actual CCC weights posted before I write on the LE. As previously posted our 31SA had a CCC of 2200+- and when we had it weighed fully loaded we about 800 lbs left.

I am mainly looking to get more power for going up hill and more braking for coming downhill when we take trips out West.

I too was looking at a DP for torque going up & braking coming down. I was very surprised at the towing capacity when I ran the numbers on the 3412 LE. When the 3412 LE was loaded with modest cargo, two passengers, fuel, water, propane & NO OPTIONS, a 4500# toad would exceed the GCWR by 170#. Running solo there was plenty of capacity left. Add a 4500# toad & it was overweight. Again this is with no options. I think this is due to the fact that the construction creates a heavy coach & the 2500MH transmission can not handle a heavy coach & tow much at the same time. Because of this I began looking at the non LE Ventana.