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Old 04-20-2018, 12:48 PM   #1
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Ventana door resist closing-sometimes

My 16 VT has an odd intermittent problem when closing the door.

The door sometimes "bounces" just as the latch is about to catch. A little force gets it to close but don't really want to do that.

The remedy seems to be opening the door all the way to the stop and then closing normally-but that doesn't always work and you have to repeat it until it does.

The door has done this intermittently since new and seems to come in spurts. We have been jacks down on level concrete for several weeks and it just started again the other day.

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My door closing effort can vary by temp and the amount of sunlight the coach side has been exposed to.
Usually pushing on the door directly in line with the frame latch will get the door properly closed without slamming.
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Also check the deadbolt. Mine sometimes floats out an 1/4" and grabs the jamb. Then after it hits it gets knocked out of the way. You can look at the striker and see if its been getting hit.

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If you look back at numerous threads you will find this is a common problem with Newmar doors on all models. You can adjust the latch to alleviate the problem, but most of us just accept that you "slam" the door to latch it. It is supposed to get better as the seals compress over time.
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This is what my dealer's service department told us. The door is designed so that during regular use during the day it doesn't need to close tight, just barely latch, no slamming or pushing required.

In the evening or when leaving for the day and you are going to lock up then it needs more force to completely compress it closed.

It sounded like smoke and mirrors to me. I asked them about it leaking if just barely closed the they said it wouldn't. I actually sprayed water on mine when it wasn't closed tight and it didn't leak like they claimed.

So now we are much happier with it. We just let it glide closed when going in and out during the day/evening. At night, or when traveling I close it harder.
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Smoke and mirrors!
Here is the link to how to adjust the latch if you are feeling brave.
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Appreciate all the advice but let me clarify....

My (intermittent) problem is the door doesn't close enough to latch at all before the "bounce" is felt. Sorta feels like a spring. Can't be the striker plate as no contact is made with the door when having the problem.

The pic shows the point where the resistance starts. At this point I either need to give a little extra force or open it all the way to the stop and hope it "resets".

Sorry the pic is sideways.
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OK. This may be your problem.
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OK. This may be your problem.
Yes!

I have those same markings on my door and when I stick a ruler in to lift it doesn't have the resistance.

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Smoke and mirrors!
Here is the link to how to adjust the latch if you are feeling brave.
Thanks for that link. Sounds like my dealer just didn't want to mess with it. I may hold off on tearing it apart to see if it "breaks in" on its own after a few months.
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Had the same issue on our 2017 DSDP. Newmar replaced the upper arm on the door as it was rubbing on the door frame and the top of the door. Also learned that there were two closing positions on the door:
“Adjusting the door mechanism to close tighter is a job I would leave for the service center. However, there is one thing you can check on your own prior to your appointment. Most people do not realize the entrance door has two latch positions. When the door is in the first latch position you will be able to lock the bottom lock but not the deadbolt. In order to lock the deadbolt, the door has to be in the second position which will normally require a very hard shut. You can verify that the deadbolt is locked by trying to open the door with the bottom lock unlocked. Most of the time (but not always) we find that the wind noise is caused by the door not being completely latched in the second position. “
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OK. This may be your problem.
This solved my problem!

Thanks very much!
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My 16 VT has an odd intermittent problem when closing the door.

The door sometimes "bounces" just as the latch is about to catch. A little force gets it to close but don't really want to do that.

The remedy seems to be opening the door all the way to the stop and then closing normally-but that doesn't always work and you have to repeat it until it does.

The door has done this intermittently since new and seems to come in spurts. We have been jacks down on level concrete for several weeks and it just started again the other day.

Ideas?
Newmar does have what their technicians refer to a as a two latch system. The first latch will hold the door closed but not tightly, and it won't be fully sealed. we use this closing style most of the time. In this position your will not be able to latch the deadbolt, just the first latch. However, when we go to bed or are traveling we close the door hard to close it all the way so it seals and sets up right to engage the second latch, referred to as the second latch.
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