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Kenneyb · 05-25-2013, 11:18 AM

Hello, I am considering buying a 2013 Ventana 36' with the 360 ISB, but concerned about the pulling power(I tow a Jeep Rubicon) I was also considering a Phaeton 36GH w/ 380 ISC. The 380ISC w/ 1050 torque is very enticing. Just trying to sort through all the fog. I currently have a 2007 fleetwood expedition 34h diesel.w/ CAT 300 C7.
Big purchase ,trying to do more homework the second time around. I would appreciate any opinions or experiences good-bad- or indifferent. Thanks

"007" · 05-25-2013, 12:20 PM

Welcome Kennyb to the forum & irv2.
Here is a Brochure and Owners Guide for 2013 Ventana.
Can't answer the pulling power but with a 36' coach would not think you would have a problem in western mountains.
I'am sure someone will have direct answer for you.
Good luck in your quest.

Romeo · 05-25-2013, 12:56 PM

We pull a 2006 Jeep Cherokee with a 38' DSDP, 300hp Cummins ISC with no problems. I'm not familiar with the ISB, but unless it has less torque than the ISC, I would think that the 360hp should work fine.

Ma Snart · 05-25-2013, 02:00 PM

I had a 2006 Ventana 39.5' with a Cat 330 HP. I pulled a full size Dodge RAM 1500 pick up behind it thru the mountains and didn't even know it was back there.

You should be fine IMO...

Ma Snart

lass · 05-27-2013, 07:07 AM

I have the 2013 Ventana 34' with the 360 HP and it pulls a Honda CRV easily, but you are actually comparing 2 different engines. The 6.7 ISB is 360 HP & 800 lbs. torque while the 8.3 ISC is 380 HP & 1050 lbs. torque. IF the GVWR is equal on the Tiffin vs. Newmar, the 8.3 would be more power.

DAJO · 05-27-2013, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenneyb

Hello, I am considering buying a 2013 Ventana 36' with the 360 ISB, but concerned about the pulling power(I tow a Jeep Rubicon) I was also considering a Phaeton 36GH w/ 380 ISC. The 380ISC w/ 1050 torque is very enticing. Just trying to sort through all the fog. I currently have a 2007 fleetwood expedition 34h diesel.w/ CAT 300 C7.
Big purchase ,trying to do more homework the second time around. I would appreciate any opinions or experiences good-bad- or indifferent. Thanks

Get most powerfull engine you can afford. You won't be sorry if you can afford more power.

Dave

redbaron73 · 05-27-2013, 05:29 PM

I had a 2008 FW Discovery 40FT MH with the 350HP ISB. Loaded with DW, 4 Kids and towing a 3/4 Crew Cab Silverado. Never had a problem, but came really close in Wyoming:

Hwy 14 between Lovell (Pryor mountain wild mustang range) and Hwy 90 in Sheridan, Wy is a beautiful road, but at times it exceeds 10% grade. I had not cleaned the radiator, and was over heating several times on the long switchbacks. This was the first and only time I had to disconnect the toad, dump the "FRESH WATER" and give it a go. That night I cleaned the radiator, and doing the road in reverse was no problem. Just slow. Use your pull outs, and don't be in a hurry.

Also another thing about either engine, the only have a very minor exhaust brake, not a true jake brake. So you have to watch your speeds coming down the other side very close.

THe nice thing about the ISB is I got 11+ with my full load if I kept it at 55.

Kenneyb · 05-28-2013, 07:20 PM

Thanks for all the info. Appreciate it

Ma Snart · 05-28-2013, 08:58 PM

Hey RedBaron73!

You got 11+!! Wow. I never got anything close to that with the CAT. What are you seeing for mileage with the new Star?

Ma Snart

redbaron73 · 05-28-2013, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ma Snart

Hey RedBaron73!

You got 11+!! Wow. I never got anything close to that with the CAT. What are you seeing for mileage with the new Star?

Ma Snart

The few trips I have done have been high speed towing (70-75 mph). I average 6.8.

We leave for our summer trip in a few weeks and will have a much slower pace, so I will see what I can squeeze out of it.

Skip426 · 05-28-2013, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DAJO

Get most powerfull engine you can afford. You won't be sorry if you can afford more power.

Dave

Best discription I've seen here in the forums is .
You want at least 1 HP per 100 lbs of GCVW
With torque 3X that of HP and the torque and HP peaks within 1000 RPM of each other .
Example Rolling weight 30,000 LBS, you want at least , 300 HP and 900 ft.lbs torque. Peak torque 1400 RPM, Peak HP 2400 RPM. This should satisfy most MH , owners.

Mr_D · 05-28-2013, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip426

Best discription I've seen here in the forums is .
You want at least 1 HP per 100 lbs of GCVW
With torque 3X that of HP and the torque and HP peaks within 1000 RPM of each other .
Example Rolling weight 30,000 LBS, you want at least , 300 HP and 900 ft.lbs torque. Peak torque 1400 RPM, Peak HP 2400 RPM. This should satisfy most MH , owners.

MH weighs about 32,000, towing Honda Odyssey on a dolly. Have 435 HP and 1200 ft lbs. now. OK, but still want MORE!!