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06-08-2023, 12:14 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2012
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Where is my backup beeper?
2021 Ventana 3717
Bought new (ordered it) and no back up alarm since day 1. I thought it just didn’t have one then I read this is an RVIA requirement.
Out of warranty but I would like to take a look at it.
I cannot see it in the engine compartment. I have a rear radiator so that limits the view.
Back up lights work as I read the alarm is wired into that circuit.
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06-08-2023, 01:05 PM
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Community Administrator
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: DFW, Texas
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Interesting, I've owned three motorhomes and none of them had a backup alarm. All of them were/are RVIA certified.
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06-08-2023, 01:37 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2022
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RMD3819
2021 Ventana 3717
Bought new (ordered it) and no back up alarm since day 1. I thought it just didn’t have one then I read this is an RVIA requirement.
Out of warranty but I would like to take a look at it.
I cannot see it in the engine compartment. I have a rear radiator so that limits the view.
Back up lights work as I read the alarm is wired into that circuit.
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My ‘22 Ventana 4369 has one but I’ve not looked for it’s location. I’m willing to bet that the 37’ has one so I would look for a blown fuse including a potential in-line fuse on one of the direct wires.
BTW, if you cannot find it, I have an Ecco 850 back up alarm that I wired in my previous Bounder. Took it off when I traded it in. It’s just sitting on one of my work benches so you are welcome to have it if you want it.
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06-08-2023, 03:51 PM
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Community Moderator
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I have owned two new motorhomes and none came with backup beepers. You can always install one connected to the rear tail lights. My Ford F350 came with an aftermarket backup beeper but removed it to avoid neighbor complaints from the shrieking sound when backing out of my driveway at 5:45 AM everyday.
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06-08-2023, 03:54 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: Pigeon Forge, TN
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RMD3819
2021 Ventana 3717
Bought new (ordered it) and no back up alarm since day 1. I thought it just didn’t have one then I read this is an RVIA requirement.
Out of warranty but I would like to take a look at it.
I cannot see it in the engine compartment. I have a rear radiator so that limits the view.
Back up lights work as I read the alarm is wired into that circuit.
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The reverse buzzer is only a requirement if you don't have a reverse camera capable of covering any empty space not seen by the mirrors. There's nothing saying you can't add one for yourself, but of the hundreds of RV's I've seen come park, maybe 2 had reverse buzzers.
RVIA's rules and regulations are deliberately hard to get to- they're only manufacturer requirements who must pay them money, not end users who don't represent any financial incentive.
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2021 Bravo Silver Star 24'
2015 Genesis G80 Ultimate, Caspian Black
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06-08-2023, 04:10 PM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Odessa, FL
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Been camping for 40 years and only recently, a couple years ago, encountered a backup alarm. It was a nice cool early 6:00AM morning, windows open, fresh air, sleeping soundly and then a couple sites over a Super C backed out of his site. I wanted to kill....never mind . Let's say I was pissed.
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06-08-2023, 04:48 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Moorpark, Ca.
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My 2019 Dutch Star came with one. On the Dutch Star its mounted to a vertical support on the right side, just inside the engine door. See photo....
I changed mine out from the beep type to what I believe is the new requirement, which sounds like a dog barking with a hoarse throat. I believe they changed styles because everyone got use to the beep and ignored it. The new one isn't as obnoxious, but it makes you look.
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2019 Newmar Dutch Star 4018 (Freightliner)
2019 Ford Raptor
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06-09-2023, 07:08 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Thanks for all the comments and offer for the beeper.
This was more of a curiosity pursuit rather than wanting a back up alarm. My 2016 VT had one so I just assumed they all Newmars did.
I have the 360 camera system that has a wide angle rear view you can scroll to while in reverse so maybe that meets the RVIA guidelines someone mentioned.
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06-09-2023, 07:21 AM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Katy, TX
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My rig has the beep-beep alarm, and I don't even "hear" them any more. I work industrial construction, usually mega-projects and while in the field there may be several hundred pieces of mobile equipment on the job. There are times when you get 10 - 20 of these alarms going off at once, I don't even "hear" the beep-beeps because I have learned to tune them out, like the DW  (don't tell her). I do hear the new sound, it's obnoxious, but it works.
Have a Safe and Wonderful Day, and many happy travels.
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2018 Newmar Ventana 3407 (Freightliner) All Electric
Towed: 2003 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
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06-09-2023, 07:33 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2021
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Never had a beeper on a motorhome. I do have them on my work trucks. On my work trucks they are all little black boxes mounted on the frame near the rear. A few years of road salt and I end up replacing them. Very simple to retro fit if you want one.
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06-09-2023, 09:53 AM
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While some may consider them annoying, I personally think they serve a good purpose. Years back was on a job site with many vendors/contractors everywhere. A guy waking across the site, carrying doughnuts of all things, was hit by a a delivery truck backing up with no beeper. Luckily no injury but the doughnuts took a dove.
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06-09-2023, 10:18 AM
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Member
Newmar Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: VA Blue Ridge Foothills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Star Don
My 2019 Dutch Star came with one. On the Dutch Star its mounted to a vertical support on the right side, just inside the engine door. See photo....
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In my case, I disconnected the beeper (mostly for etiquette). Behind the Oasis surge line hose right by the beeper unit (that Don's shows in his pic) is the connection ... my pic shows it disconnected. Yours may be disconnected
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06-09-2023, 10:47 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2023
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I'm so glad I don't have the backup alarm
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06-09-2023, 11:33 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Southern CA
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I installed a switch on the back-up beeper. We like to leave early and just didn't want to have others have to put up with that wake up call.
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