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Old 10-05-2016, 09:36 AM   #1
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Winter outdoor storage guidance please - 1st timer.

I am a first time rver and have a 2015 ds 4369 and located in cold Calgary Canada.
As winter will be here soon, i have completed the winterization of the plumbing and have it ready to put to sleep for a while.
Please comment if im missing anything or need to change my storage plans

I have it stored outdoors on a asphalt pad plugged into 50 amp shore power.
It is on the leveling jacks as instructed by Freightliner, air dumped.
Both battery switches are on.
Charger is on.
I plan to check the flooded batteries water monthly and start the gen monthly.
Blinds all closed, all liquids and food removed as well as anything that i dont want to freeze.
Am i missing anything?
thanks for the guidance, looking forward to when this becomes fun.
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Old 10-05-2016, 09:53 AM   #2
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Well, I presume you have winterized the fresh water system. Don't forget to pour some anti-freeze down each drain trap, including the shower. If it is plugged in beside your house, you may just want to keep it heated. I did that when I lived in Ontario and it got down below zero for over 2 weeks once without issue.

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Old 10-05-2016, 10:11 AM   #3
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Have a FULL tank of diesel fuel , Do NOT start the diesel generator once a month, unless you absolutely have to , it can wait till spring time..
Open all the tank drains, the fresh & the low once.
Winterize the water lines & drain traps and the washer!
Don't forget to empty the water filters & ice maker.
Check your charger / inverter to make sure its working.
Play it safe , repairs are very costly.
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Yes full winterization was done by dealer as i observed. Pink stuff used and tanks and low points emptied.
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Old 10-05-2016, 12:54 PM   #5
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Check the pipe between the whole house filter and the city water fill for pink stuff.
May want to add Stable to fuel and run Gen so its in that fuel line.
Here are a couple of links with more to consider unless you already have.
120 would be ample to run the converter if 50 amp was not available.
The links below in my signature have many links for your Newmar that you can read during the cold months ahead.
Stay warm and see you in the spring.
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Old 10-05-2016, 01:03 PM   #6
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If there any mice within 50 miles they are all discussing how to get into your MH. Traps are the only thing that works for me. They sense the slights warmth another reason not to run the genset.
Somehow up the tires and inside.
If your area has no mice disregard.
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Don't forget the ice maker, if your coach is equipped. There are instructions in the refrigerator manuals.
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ice maker - the dealer said as this is a residential fridge the ice maker is set up to operate under freezing conditions and there is no need to worry about it freezing. We removed the fridge filter and ran until pink came from fridge water dispenser on the door but nothing to the ice maker.
should i do the ice maker too?
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Following as another newbie to winterizing.
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ice maker - the dealer said as this is a residential fridge the ice maker is set up to operate under freezing conditions and there is no need to worry about it freezing. We removed the fridge filter and ran until pink came from fridge water dispenser on the door but nothing to the ice maker.
should i do the ice maker too?
I think the dealer is mistaken. I agree that what is inside the freezer compartment is designed for the cold, but the water line outside to and from the solenoid in the refrigerator is not. If you are using antifreeze, then you should run your ice maker until you see some pink slush/ice formed. I do it differently by mostly blowing out all the lines, including as you do the refrigerator water dispenser. Once blown out, I run the ice maker with air pressure supplied, and I end up with about 5 ice cubes by the next morning.
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I agree... Lines in the back of the refrigerator are exposed to the elements, and I guarantee they will freeze up, if you don't take care of them. Mine has "heat trace" cord on the line that runs from the solenoid to the ice maker, but the inlet line to the solenoid is completely unprotected. I don't know if the heat trace comes on automatically, when plugged in while stored, but I know the other line had no protection.
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I think the dealer is mistaken. I agree that what is inside the freezer compartment is designed for the cold, but the water line outside to and from the solenoid in the refrigerator is not. If you are using antifreeze, then you should run your ice maker until you see some pink slush/ice formed. I do it differently by mostly blowing out all the lines, including as you do the refrigerator water dispenser. Once blown out, I run the ice maker with air pressure supplied, and I end up with about 5 ice cubes by the next morning.

Can you please explain how you do this? The ice maker and dishwasher and washing machine are my big fears. I can imagine running the dw and wm through a cycle to get the pink stuff in them, but ice....

Do people literally make pink ice??
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Can you please explain how you do this? The ice maker and dishwasher and washing machine are my big fears. I can imagine running the dw and wm through a cycle to get the pink stuff in them, but ice....

Do people literally make pink ice??
The refrigerator just needs to be on and cold, with the icemaker switch on of course. You then need to have the antifreeze suction line active with the water pump left on. The icemaker will then do its bit, not caring what's coming through the solenoid. You won't get pink ice cubes, but rather pink slush. I don't like the idea of antifreeze in all the lines, so have a more complicated procedure for fully blowing out the system with air. Same idea though for the icemaker, but with air pressure left on.

By the way, I located the water line isolation valves for the washing machine and refrigerator (don't have a dishwasher), so after winterizing I can isolate them. That way I can reintroduce water into the coach in the winter if necessary, and only have to winterize the easy stuff afterwards.
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Look at your washing machine/dishwasher instructions, they should have something on winterizing if they are meant for an RV.

I run the washing machine on both hot and then cold until the pink stuff shows up. Then I shut it off. I can see the water lines at one point and confirm there is anti-freeze in them.

I have a stand-alone built in ice-maker, I also run that until I get pink slush and then turn it off.

If you have a water filter don't forget to remove the filter and ensure the unit is filled with anti-freeze. If not it will crack in the spring.

If your charging system is working correctly and you are plugged in you should be fine. My charging system was not keeping the starter batteries up and I froze the batteries two winters in a row until I figured it out (expensive lesson). I now use an Ampl-Charge from the house batteries to the starter batteries and it works fine. I have not needed to add water during the winter.

Also if you have a diesel, do not run the engine or generator during the winter. Set it all up, make sure your fuel tank is full, turn it off and leave it until the temps warm up. You may not yet have winter diesel available (the availability varies province to province) and your summer diesel will gel in the cold, no harm as long as you don't run it. When the outside temperature is above freezing for a while in the spring you should be fine to start it- that's what I do here. You may want to add some additives that help prevent "algae" in diesel, I don't and haven't had any problems.

You can't over-do the winterizing, anti-freeze is cheap and repairs are not.

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