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08-17-2006, 05:16 AM
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I went to service my batteries yesterday and the filler pump is not pumping. The motor works, but no water is being pumped. I took off the closest hose and was able to blow through it in both direction, but no water comes out when I run the pump.
Any words of wisdom? Thanks in advance.
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08-17-2006, 05:16 AM
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I went to service my batteries yesterday and the filler pump is not pumping. The motor works, but no water is being pumped. I took off the closest hose and was able to blow through it in both direction, but no water comes out when I run the pump.
Any words of wisdom? Thanks in advance.
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08-18-2006, 02:25 PM
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HTG3, I would suggest you check the pump. I have never had it apart but I would assume it has some sort of impeller in it.
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2005 Alpine 34', 34FDDS
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08-20-2006, 01:59 PM
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I finally got to checking out the pump. It comes off the tank very easily. The motor works, but the pump shaft is not turning. Not servicable and made in Italy (Yikes). I'll call Monday for cost of replacement, but already have a plan for a cheap 12V pump plumbed to the tank.
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08-20-2006, 02:45 PM
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OK guys, you have pumps? Have I missed something, I thought mine was gravity feed. I have an 06 Apex. Inlighten me please.
Lyle
Apex 1
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08-20-2006, 06:26 PM
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Gravity feed makes more sense, but my '05 Alpine has a plastic tank with a small pump mounted on the outside.
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08-20-2006, 06:37 PM
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The auto battery fill was a $298 option on our 05. Thing works great. I recommend it highly.
05-06 36'FDDS
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08-21-2006, 02:52 AM
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Lyle & Cath, We have an o5 with the battery pump and very much agree with Jerry Davis. It works great and you can always tell when your batteries are full by watching the overflow in the water storage rank. When it comes back in you know the batteries are full.
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08-22-2006, 10:26 AM
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L&C, You should have a black rubber button mounted on the left side wall of the batt compartment that runs the pump on the battery fill system, which is located on the left side of the left batt bulkhead. You'll hear it run (if it works) when you push the button.
We had WRV relocate the tank/pump so the plastic tank bottom was above the bottom of the bulkhead separating service bay from batt's, so the plastic was out of the way of debris kicked up by the LR tires (tank hung exposed ~3" below bulkhead in OEM position).
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08-22-2006, 05:49 PM
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Can't find a pump anywhere. I have a little lever that states fill and off. You switch it one way and it is suppose to fill the batteries. There is no way of telling if it is filling though. I have followed the tube from the plastic tank to the batteries and still have not found a pump. If any Apex readers or WRV are looking please input and let me know if you have a pump.
Thanks to all
Lyle
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08-22-2006, 06:13 PM
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Greetings from Camp WRV,
The front row is full of Alpines. Looks like a big dealership. We had to park in the back row. We are back from a month in Europe. Somebody has to do it.
Lyle, you do not have a pump as the system is gravity flow. I do not like the tank being back in the engine compartment (evaporation) and am considering getting a pump type rank and moving it back to the battery compartment if there is room.
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08-23-2006, 05:29 AM
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Thanks Basil & Sue at least now I know that I am not "bonkers"....well
Is there a kit out there that you (anybody)knows of?
Thanks,
Lyle
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08-23-2006, 09:38 AM
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The pump system works on a closed circuit- pump runs water thru each cap successively, where it will fill a cell if its float is low, and if/when the float is full up the water bypasses to the next cell. There is a "last cell" from which bypassing water returns to the tank.
If its a gravity system, that would imply either an air release or an oveflow at the end to allow the water to travel thru the caps. An air release might not be obvious without knowing to look for one. Seems an overflow would present itself.
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08-23-2006, 10:12 AM
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Mike: If you are on the LR side of the coach, you are on the wrong side..your horse is backwards.
Basil and Sue: Welcome back. We are in the front row at Camp WVR. 06 MDDS. Front row Center, you need to come early to get a good spot.
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