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Old 05-29-2020, 03:12 PM   #1
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King Jack Antenna

In another YouTube-inspired event, I will now replace the factory antenna/sat dish combo unit with the highly debated but also highly rated king jack antenna.

First thoughts: yikes, how did this old thing not fall apart for 20 years?
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Old 05-30-2020, 12:00 PM   #2
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Well ours did fall apart...
Upgraded to the King Jack as well. I used the optional base plate cover for mounting it over the original array of holes from the Winegard affair.
Also, no need to enlarge the hole to 2" as per the mounting instructions.
The original hole is just large enough. I also ran all new coaxial cable from the KJ forward and replaced the original Winegard amplifier in the forward overhead with the one KJ supplied, utilizing the wet bay coax connection (red tape) and the rear bedroom connection. (forget that color)
We removed the box of many buttons and about 10 yards of coax.
Now only have the OTA antenna and one DVD player, smart tv and ROKU.
I do have the original WRV print that shows the coaxial color coding.
Also, the splitter for the bedroom/basement coax is behind the 12v outlet in the basement, fwiw....
I removed that splitter, as I experienced significant signal loss to the bedroom tv.
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Old 05-30-2020, 01:55 PM   #3
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Wow, 36, how did you switch out the coax?
Is it just loose in all the walls so you could use the old cable as your fish?

I haven't done step 2 on the roof yet. I am expecting to find two coax: one for the ant. and one for the sat.
Suppose I'll just snip the sat. cable.

When you are out and about, what is your setup for streaming? I was thinking about getting a Verizon hot spot thang. Do you have a better idea?
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Wow, 36, how did you switch out the coax?
Is it just loose in all the walls so you could use the old cable as your fish?

I haven't done step 2 on the roof yet. I am expecting to find two coax: one for the ant. and one for the sat.
Suppose I'll just snip the sat. cable.

When you are out and about, what is your setup for streaming? I was thinking about getting a Verizon hot spot thang. Do you have a better idea?
No, you'll never fish new coax cable in like the original was done. For whatever reason the original coax cable from the old Winegard "frisbee" antenna did not have continuity to the front of the coach. I spent all day trying to troubleshoot it and finally figured it must be cut somewhere inside the roof or wall, or a bad splitter somewhere, who knows.
I simply ran new coax along the roof, under the solar panels and front AC unit, securing it with Dicor about every foot. Drilled a small hole in the forward cap by the horns and fished it to the antenna booster panel. Sealed everything up with Dicor, no issues.

We use Verizon, have an old "unlimited" plan and use my android as a mobile hotspot. Our Vizio Smart tv doesn't pair well with it or campground wifi, it's a "Smarthub thing", not so smart.
So we use a ROKU box, whenever possible.
It's amazing how many OTA channels we get with the antenna though. And we bring lots of DVDs along too. (free at the local library)
We really don't watch a lot of tv, except to catch up on the weather or news.
We're mostly listen to good music kinda people anyways.
Oh, btw, we did upgrade the sound system too. Alpine stereo of course!
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Oh I want to hear all about your sound system too.
It's not a thread hijack. ...it's all under the entertainment banner.
I thought about getting the Alpine Halo as a replacement head unit......but I talked myself out of the $800 price.
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Oh I want to hear all about your sound system too.
It's not a thread hijack. ...it's all under the entertainment banner.
I thought about getting the Alpine Halo as a replacement head unit......but I talked myself out of the $800 price.
Pretty basic unit that fit the DIN dash mount perfectly and paired up with the 6 existing speakers well, although a speaker/amp/powered subwoofer upgrade is in our future.
The Bluetooth and hands free calling is a welcome addition.

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-PRD7MZ...CDE-175BT.html
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This would be hilarious if it wasn't so frustrating.

I wonder if they jobbed this out to winegard? This seems so un-alpine.

"I can't have my guys installing antenna wiring ---we've got hundreds of unwanted mirrors to glue on the walls!!!

So, to keep a simple little coax hole waterproof, let's embed the cables in some super sticky bedding compound (sika?), then mold a giant silicone blob on top of that. Then, let's use butl tape to mount a rubber plate over the whole thing. Then let's use 10 sheet metal screws to anchor that baby down. Finally, let's add a heavy coating of that bedding compound and encourage each owner of the coach to top it off with as many layers of dicor as they possibly can.
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Yep. That looks familiar!
I have no idea what the orange sealant is but it's tough as nails.
Exactly why I just ran a new coax forward on top of the roof.
I cut the cables off, re sealed everything and buttoned it up.
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Lol.
I was determined to dig out all the gooey sealant and have some slack in the old coax that I could miraculously pull up onto the roof. No go.
You were right.
I sliced it all off and filled all the holes with epoxy. Then ordered the cable gland for the front cap.
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Switch out the antenna: sounded like a simple 2-hour project....
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King jack mounted with 3M 5200.

No outer edge fasteners needed.
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Another advantage of the 5200 is that you can get a reasonable result when you prime/paint over it. Painting over dicor is.......counter productive. Paint hardens and dicor stays mushy.
In a future project i think I will clean/prime/paint the roof in sections--removing dicor blobs as I go. Then replace the dicor when the paint is dry.
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As an aside, there are a number of small rogue holes drilled in my roof--some of which had been filled with silicone by a previous owner or the factory. So they have to be gouged out to get rid of the silicone before they can be sealed.

It's almost like "is this the right spot for this hole?"
"No."
"Ok, how about this spot?"
"No."
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Front tv works just fine.
No continuity to the bedroom tv.
I'm using the coax from the BOMB that was marked OUT to TV2.
Well, actually I tried all four of the cable options.
My next step is to follow Alpine36 advice and dismantle the patio coax outlet and see what's in there.
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