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07-23-2016, 09:57 PM
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Power seat problem
Can anyone help me find the power source of both driver and passenger seats. It is a 2003 40 FDTS Alpine. I was traveling and tried to adjust drivers seat forward and back with switch and it quite working. This was a couple days ago and today I turned passenger seat around and used switch to raise foot rest. It worked to raise it and when I lowered it nothing worked. I checked power and have nothing on either side. I also tried to jump 12v power directly to switch no work.
It makes it a bit awkward to get around and always having feet up.
Help 
21Jim
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07-23-2016, 10:01 PM
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Sounds like your fuse
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07-23-2016, 10:15 PM
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Pretty sure fuses are on the ceiling of the battery compartment in the rear on the 03. But also think these are auto reset fuses so no power to seats for a pre-Vansco Alpine is kind of rare..I think....
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07-23-2016, 10:17 PM
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Thanks, I will check it out in AM. I will let you know.
21Jim
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07-24-2016, 05:37 AM
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Power seat problem
Jim, if you jumped 12 volts directly to the switch on both seats and nothing worked I would also jump the grounds. It would be too much of a coincidence for both motors to fail at once, particularly since you say it was at different times. If the seats work by jumping both power and ground check your ground lugs to be sure they are tight and have no paint under them. There are only 2 things required to make the seats work on a 2003 pre-Vansco coach, power and ground.
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2005 38' FDTS Alpine Limited, 2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
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07-24-2016, 07:04 AM
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Not sure I am clear on your "jump 12 volt power".
If you connected the seat side of the connection to both positive and ground and nothing happened, you potentially have three issues:
1. Finding the fuse and replacing it.
2. Determining the cause of the fuse blowing
3. And, likely related to #2, fixing the motor or wiring that did not work when you jumped good 12 volt positive and negative to the seat side on the connector.
Brett
2003 Alpine 38FDDS
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07-24-2016, 11:10 AM
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Ours turned out to be a loose butt splice. There should be a wrap around your wire bundle held closed with Velcro. Remove the cover and locate the splices. Perhaps you have a loose or disconnected splice. We had to add additional wire so the seat could swivel without pulling the wires.
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07-24-2016, 11:15 AM
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DrDave I did connect ground and power but put it into switch wires then tried to run with switch. I tried this on pass seat and not driver side. Driver side switch feels like not moving correctly so I'm wondering if driver side switch quit me and blew fuse at later time causing no power on pass side. Your right it's weird both would stop working but at different times. I did test for power on driver side (none) and disconnected wiring.
Old Scout, I have a fuse block in upper part of wall in battery box. I will pull these to see if any are blown.
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07-24-2016, 11:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 21Jim
DrDave I did connect ground and power but put it into switch wires then tried to run with switch. I tried this on pass seat and not driver side. Driver side switch feels like not moving correctly so I'm wondering if driver side switch quit me and blew fuse at later time causing no power on pass side. Your right it's weird both would stop working but at different times. I did test for power on driver side (none) and disconnected wiring.
Old Scout, I have a fuse block in upper part of wall in battery box. I will pull these to see if any are blown.
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Jim, can you put +12 and ground directly to the drivers side motor, that will prove if it is good? Then if it is, go to the switch, which it sounds like you have already done. Then keep working back toward the batteries.
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2005 38' FDTS Alpine Limited, 2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
Lake Wales, FL
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07-24-2016, 12:59 PM
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Old Scout, you were right, found fuse block on end wall of battery compartment. Seats are on same block as entry step but separate auto breaker fuse. I jumped the fuse with wire with fuse in it, with everything disconnected and found power at seat. Connected pass seat and wa la, foot rest down. So need new breaker and start on other seat.
Thanks everyone. It is great to bounce ideas around until a solution is found.
😀😄👌
🚎. Jim
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07-24-2016, 01:02 PM
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Good place to start Dr Dave on drivers seat. At least now the wife will be happy so I can get to the fishing hole.
Ha Ha
Jim
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