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08-26-2020, 11:25 AM
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Storing my coach
I am storing my coach for a few months and found a place that is covered with 20amp service. The issue is that when I plug my unit into the 20amp service, the GFI breaker trips. I don't have anything on other than the inverter and when I check the amps being used though the monitor its says 1.5 amps. Wonder if the inverter draws to much power for the 20 amp breaker?
Any thoughts on the best way to store the beast? Do I keep the fridge on via the inverter, etc.
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Ernie and Jonna Ortiz
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2006 Alpine Coach Apex 40FD
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08-26-2020, 11:50 AM
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Its not the amp draw that trips GFCIs.
It current that's leaking to ground.
There are just to many reasons to list what to look for. Start switching things off and unplugged things, to try and locate the issue.
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08-26-2020, 12:16 PM
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What happens when you plug it in somewhere else?
Mine is always plugged in on a 20 amp with the fridge, dehumidifier and inverter on no problem.
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Angelo & Leslie
2005 Alpine 36FDDS #75268
MARYSVILLE, WA.
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08-26-2020, 12:30 PM
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Twinboat is right, your rig doesn't play well with GFI's.
Time to get your trusty VOM out and start testing all your circuits.
Google "Why a GFI trips", and you may find your answer.
Happy Glamping.
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08-26-2020, 02:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeep401
What happens when you plug it in somewhere else?
Mine is always plugged in on a 20 amp with the fridge, dehumidifier and inverter on no problem.
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Is it a GFCI protected outlet ?
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08-26-2020, 03:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ernieo
I am storing my coach for a few months and found a place that is covered with 20amp service. The issue is that when I plug my unit into the 20amp service, the GFI breaker trips. I don't have anything on other than the inverter and when I check the amps being used though the monitor its says 1.5 amps. Wonder if the inverter draws to much power for the 20 amp breaker?
Any thoughts on the best way to store the beast? Do I keep the fridge on via the inverter, etc.
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I assume you are not the only camper plugged into that 20 amp circuit? We've started flipping a lot of of our circuit breakers off inside the RV so we don't draw more current than we need. As other's have said, it's not what's causing the GFI to trip, but just another thing to consider if you are plugged in with others at a storage facility. I've learned where our circuit breaker box is and have worn a path to it.
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08-26-2020, 04:23 PM
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Be sure your power share setting is below 20A. I usually select 5A even with a 50A service. It just keep the batteries charged and the refrigerator is empty.
Before we had the barn and 50A plug, we kept it plugged in to a 15A GFI outlet without issues. We ran the refrigerator before trips. The outlet was on a circuit that was protected by a 15A GFI breaker at the main panel, rather than an outlet with GFI protection or one downstream of one.
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08-26-2020, 06:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twinboat
Is it a GFCI protected outlet ?
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No I don't believe so.
I think the GFI is down stream from the power going to the coach....
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08-26-2020, 06:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeep401
No I don't believe so.
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Big difference. GFCI outlets trip from current leakage to ground, the type that kill you, so they are very sensitive.
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08-26-2020, 07:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeep401
No I don't believe so.
I think the GFI is down stream from the power going to the coach....
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I’m not a licensed electrician and I don’t play one on TV.
I did learn the following while staying at a Holiday Inn.
A GFI outlet needs to be the first outlet on a circuit. It will provide GFI protection to all downstream outlets on the same circuit. Or, a GFI circuit breaker will provide GFI protection to all ordinary outlets on that circuit.
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08-26-2020, 07:59 PM
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Ernie,
Two GFCI in series do not play well with each other. You can press the test button on the bathroom GFC then the source GFCI breaker should no longer trip.
Scott
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08-26-2020, 09:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sco70ttie
Ernie,
Two GFCI in series do not play well with each other. You can press the test button on the bathroom GFC then the source GFCI breaker should no longer trip.
Scott
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Ok, thanks for the input. I will try that.
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Conroe, TX
2006 Alpine Coach Apex 40FD
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08-26-2020, 09:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RVPioneer
Be sure your power share setting is below 20A. I usually select 5A even with a 50A service. It just keep the batteries charged and the refrigerator is empty.
Before we had the barn and 50A plug, we kept it plugged in to a 15A GFI outlet without issues. We ran the refrigerator before trips. The outlet was on a circuit that was protected by a 15A GFI breaker at the main panel, rather than an outlet with GFI protection or one downstream of one.
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Where would I find said power share setting?
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Ernie and Jonna Ortiz
Conroe, TX
2006 Alpine Coach Apex 40FD
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08-26-2020, 09:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeep401
What happens when you plug it in somewhere else?
Mine is always plugged in on a 20 amp with the fridge, dehumidifier and inverter on no problem.
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I have not tried it elsewhere. But it did work on 30 amp service with no issues. Also, I did plug in the 20 to 50 amp reducer into my surge protector and no issues. But when I plug into the surge protector, pop goes the gfi.
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Conroe, TX
2006 Alpine Coach Apex 40FD
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