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Old 11-19-2019, 12:25 PM   #15
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Sorry, but "what it looks like" is a really poor way to judge the properties of coolant.


Be aware that you have a LINERED ENGINE. That means the coolant is important to protect the cylinder liners!


Coolant CAN be tested. But tests are different for the different coolant chemistries.


"Low silicate for diesels with added SCA" is one acceptable (and less costly) coolant.


The new generation long life OAT coolants are the other.
I have a lot to learn about diesels.
I'm not sure why a lined cylinder's coolant needs differ from a cylinder directly bored into a head.
I'm not familiar with either term you used, SCA and OAT.
Also keep seeing discussions of DEF.

another stupid question....

what is DEF? and do I need it?
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Old 11-19-2019, 12:34 PM   #16
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No DEF for your year model.



Your Cummins owners manual section on coolants is a good place to start the learning process about your engine's coolant needs and what are approved coolants.


SCA= Supplemental Cooling Additive. It is sacrificial, being consumed to protect the cylinder liners from erosion. It then needs to be tested for and replaced.



Nothing new here. If this is the kind of coolant you have, you need test strips that test for: freeze point, pH and SCA concentration. SCA can be added as a liquid or, if you have a coolant filter by a coolant filter with SCA in it.


Any shop that works on diesel will have the test strips. Here is a common one (though you do not want to buy 48, as they have a finite shelf life):


www.wixfilters.com/Lookup/PartDetails.aspx?Part=22873
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Old 11-19-2019, 09:40 PM   #17
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ULSD means ultra low sulphur diesel. Ok for modern diesels but not so good for older diesels, pre DEF. (diesel emission fluid equipped with catalytic diesel particulate filter systems) While your ISL will probably be fine without fuel additive, it's not worth the risk. The advantages of an additive like Diesel Kleen, Howes, Lucas, Stanadyne etc are many. Raises Cetane, cleans injectors and combustion deposits, adds lubericity to very expensive fuel system components (ULSD has very low lubericity compared to "regular" diesel of old), protects against fuel gelling in cold and, some claim, improves fuel mileage and runs smoother.
I'm a believer. Cheep insurance for crappy fuel our engines weren't really designed for. I know many truckers, owners and fleets who swear by it.
Many research tests over the years seem to back up the advantages of using diesel fuel additives in pre def applications. If you ever have several hours to kill just google it.
I look at it this way, you wouldn't run the wrong oil in your Cummins, why would you run the wrong fuel?
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Old 11-20-2019, 07:54 AM   #18
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….interesting counter-point to using additives----until recently, Cummins didn't recommend any additives to address ULSD fuels, perhaps because they didn't own/produce a product--but now they do??????
PS-- since I live in south Texas, cold weather is usually not an issue--use of additives is probably more important up north---but then again that sounds more like a geographic issue [smile]…...
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There ARE two diesel additives that are strongly recommended. Others-- likely mainly help lighten your wallet.


If storing diesel fuel over 2 months in summer or 3 months in winter, add a BIOCIDE such as Biobor JF to prevent algae growth. Then fill the diesel tank to minimize condensation.


If storing #2 diesel= summer blend into below freezing temperatures, add an ANTI-GEL. PS brand is stocked at most Walmarts.


Do not start the engine unless you are able to drive a minimum of 25 highway miles. Anything less just adds moisture to the crankcase.
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"Do not start the engine unless you are able to drive a minimum of 25 highway miles. Anything less just adds moisture to the crankcase."

True that.....
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Old 11-20-2019, 02:28 PM   #21
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Hmmmm

My takeaways are, only start her when I'm prepared to exercise her, and the diesel rabbit hole might be a deep one

Normally I dont like paying others to do things I can do for myself. I will learn about my new engines. Just not this week. I haven't even paid Cummins yet, and my wallet is already hurting thinking about it.

It only has 28k miles. The fluids and filters could be fine and I would not hurt anything driving 1500 miles to AZ. The fluids and filters could also be 10 years old and I could cause serious wear to the engine.

The Cummins shop said transmission will need no service at this mileage.

Neither they or the dealer shop will flush brakes. Not sure if I want to do that myself or not. I just did it to my 4runner, and I dont like working with brake fluid anymore.

The brakes work great, so I'll decide in AZ wether or it to diy that task.



And now today's stupid question...
How do we keep the glasses from flying around in the cupboards?

We are going to start moving stuff in tonight.
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Might check with Les Schwab to see if they would do a brake flush. I know the previous owner of our coach had it done at a LS in Ellensburg. When I check at my local LS they wouldn't do it. Good luck.
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Old 11-21-2019, 08:55 AM   #23
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Might check with Les Schwab to see if they would do a brake flush. I know the previous owner of our coach had it done at a LS in Ellensburg. When I check at my local LS they wouldn't do it. Good luck.
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I've decided to flush the brakes down in AZ.



Today's stupid question is...

When I fill up the diesel fuel, will the pump shut off automatically when its it's full?

The unusual position of the fuel fill opening has me wondering. I've also only pumped diesel once so far. I knew about how much room was left, but the pump stopped a couple gallons before I got there because the ATM card only allowed $100 purchase lol

Still curious how to keep our glasses from breaking. I think I'll wander over to the general forums and search there.
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When I fill up the diesel fuel, will the pump shut off automatically when its it's full?

Very likely the pump will automatically cut off 10 gallons or so before it is full.


Diesel foams, so after the automatic cut off you can usually "nurse" more in.


Also, a number of us have found the vent line too long between fuel tank and filler neck. This hinders breathing (air out as you put diesel in) and artificially cuts off the pump. Pretty simple to crawl under there and verify that the vent line ONLY goes uphill from tank to filler.
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Still curious how to keep our glasses from breaking. I think I'll wander over to the general forums and search there.

We installed no slip shelf liner, turn the coffee cups upside down and use mostly plastic glasses. As cheesy as it sounds we use a cardboard Widmer 6 pack carrier for wine glasses and tall cocktail tumblers. Carry them under the kitchen sink while traveling.
No matter what you do, be prepared for things to attack you when opening up cabinets. It just happens.
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Today's stupid question is...

Still curious how to keep our glasses from breaking. I think I'll wander over to the general forums and search there.

We installed no slip shelf liner, turn the coffee cups upside down and use mostly plastic glasses. As cheesy as it sounds we use a cardboard Widmer 6 pack carrier for wine glasses and tall cocktail tumblers. Carry them under the kitchen sink while traveling.
No matter what you do, be prepared for things to attack you when opening up cabinets. It just happens.
Go to a dollar store and buy shelf liner. It is kind of rubbery, and will stop things from sliding around. We have it in every cupboard.
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Old 11-21-2019, 03:04 PM   #27
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When we started in 2006 there was a company that made styrofoam blocks with holes the size of different types of glasses. It has worked well for 14 years. Only have broken 1 wine glass, and that was in use, not as the result of storage. I store them in cabinets over the dining table and use vertical rods that keep things from falling out when cabinet door is open. The blocks are sitting on wire shelves above the dishes which sit on the carpet bottom of the cabinet and never shift.

I haven't seen the blocks advertised for years, but it shouldn't be hard to find some solid blocks and cut out holes the size of your glasses.
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We went to our local store and baby proofed our cabinet doors, that at least keeps things contained.

On the fluids, I trust no one, if something go bad, it is my wallet that must sustain the hit, change ALL fluids, replace tires if the DOT code is over 7 years. Call Redlands Truck, in Redlands, CA they are in Quartzsite each year, and should be able to do the brake fluid change, tiresmand many other things you want done. They are not cheap, but they do good work.
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