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02-15-2021, 05:45 PM
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2005 National Dolphin
Anyone have any recommendations for new shocks?
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02-15-2021, 05:56 PM
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2005 Fleetwood Excursion 39J, 2015 Chevy Colorado 4x4 Crew Cab. Simi-Retired, 4 Down & Running, Sonoma County, CA.
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02-15-2021, 06:38 PM
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I agree....Koni...
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02-15-2021, 07:14 PM
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We went with Koni FSD , much improved ride over the Bilstein .
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2005 National Dolphin 5355 (MEPAW) , Koni FDS shocks, Safe-T-Plus , Rear track bar , Sumo springs . She tows a 2006 Tacoma 4X4
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02-15-2021, 10:11 PM
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I'm happy with my Bilsteins, but maybe that's because I've never tried Konis?
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02-16-2021, 04:33 AM
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i also say koni, i had to go with bilston when i replaced mine because koni was not available at the time but i had koni's on my last rv and much prefer them.
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02-16-2021, 06:01 AM
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NAPA shocks for me.They work just as good and a whole lot cheaper.
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02-16-2021, 11:00 AM
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I've read on previous threads that the Bilsteins you can buy today are better than what were originally specified by Workhorse, so keep that in mind. The rumor is that originals were built to Workhorse specifications and Bilstein engineers changed the specs for the aftermarket. It was on the Internet, so it must be true.
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02-16-2021, 11:51 AM
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Thanks everyone
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02-16-2021, 11:52 AM
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Has anyone used the sumo shocks?
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02-16-2021, 01:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ktm01
Has anyone used the sumo shocks?
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I don't think Sumo makes shocks. They're a helper spring... basically a big foam rubber bump stop. I have them on my 2004 Dolphin and they did help the rig feel more "settled", and I find it's also less likely for the front suspension to crash on things like bridge transitions.
If I had it to do it all over again, this is the order I'd do my suspension upgrades:
Trac bars, front and rear
Steering stabilizer
Sumo Springs (front first)
Rear anti-sway bar
The above is taking price into consideration. A rear anti-sway bar gave me only modest improvement and it was expensive, so I put that at the bottom of the list.
I cant say I saw a big improvement when I changed shocks, but then again my rig only had 15k miles on it, so the original shocks might have still been good. I changed them out because they were 15 years old.
I used P32 Workhorse Sumo Springs on the rear of my W-22 because they're a lot cheaper. The way I look at it, they're a lot beefier than the original bump stops, though perhaps not giving the improvement I would see if I'd used the ones designed for my chassis. I did use the W-22 Sumos in front.
Some say you don't need the steering stabilizer if you increase the front caster to 5 degrees. I can't say whether that's true or not but in my case the stabilizer really helped keep the "sawing" at the wheel to a minimum.
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02-17-2021, 03:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CamJam1
Some say you don't need the steering stabilizer if you increase the front caster to 5 degrees. I can't say whether that's true or not but in my case the stabilizer really helped keep the "sawing" at the wheel to a minimum.
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The front SS is to help you keep control on the event of a front tire blowout, assuming you install a true center one. Increasing the caster will tighten up the steering (we are at 3 degrees), but not help you if you loose a front tire.
Al
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02-17-2021, 01:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FLRosebud
The front SS is to help you keep control on the event of a front tire blowout, assuming you install a true center one. Increasing the caster will tighten up the steering (we are at 3 degrees), but not help you if you loose a front tire.
Al
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Isn't 3 degrees caster the factory spec?
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02-18-2021, 10:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CamJam1
Isn't 3 degrees caster the factory spec?
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I believe that is the max for the F-53 chassis.
Al
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