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Old 08-13-2013, 02:21 AM   #1
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hello i am going to take my 2000 national sea breeze back home and i was wondering and looking for advice on the power gas requirements, i do know about the door and of course the RH drive but electrical and lpg /gas i could do with help
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Welcome to irv2. I'll move this to our National owners section to get members with a similar MH to advise.
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hello i am going to take my 2000 national sea breeze back home and i was wondering and looking for advice on the power gas requirements, i do know about the door and of course the RH drive but electrical and lpg /gas i could do with help
Sorry you haven't had a response. As far as propane (LP gas) that should be standard world wide. If you are talking the connectors to fill the tank, they could be different, but no doubt adapters are available.

The chassis is of course standard automotive 12vdc and is the same everywhere.

Australia's power is 230vac at 50hz. U.S. power is 120vac at 60hz. So you will need a converter to plug the coach into power at home. These adapters are widely available. If your coach is 30amps (3 prongs) , your converter would have to accept that plug on the coach, or you would have to replace it. One prong carries 120vac at 60hz, the other is a neutral and the other a ground.

If you have a 50amp coach (4 prong plug) this complicates things a bit. 2 of those prongs both carries 120vac at 50amps each for a total of 100amps for the coach to use. The other 2 prongs are the neutral and ground.
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It's not just the voltage, the frequency is different (50 cycles vs 60 cycles). This can cause several problems. Clocks won't keep accurate time and certain types of electric motor can overheat.
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Foriegn converters for U.S. powered items also take care of the Hz (cycle) differences.
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Take a look at this 120/60 to 240/50 discussion on a Sailing Forum where they have the same problems in sailing between different countries.

By the way, transformers transform voltage, but they do NOT transform frequency.

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LP gas is standard.. Gasoline is 87 Octane (R=M)/2 method (Regular here in the US)

Electricity is either 120 volts at 30 amps or 240 volts at 50 amps DIVIDED into 2 120 volt out of phase legs

Or electrically I'd say 240 volt center tapped. But

Everything in the RV is 120 volt.
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You are right Rusty, 'transformers' cannot change Hz. They do make frequency converters, but they are pricey. He could convert all his 50hz to DC, then use a 60hz inverter. I've seen them as high as 15,000w, which would give him 100+ amps possible.

I know many US appliances are rated 50/60 hz which he may get lucky or replace. I doubt the motors in the AC units are though. Optionally perhaps replace AC motors with 50hz motors. None of this easy or super cheap. Seems we had a fellow on here a year ago or so from NZ with this problem. I think he eventually just converted the whole coach, but I may be wrong on that. CRS has been setting in lately
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Electricity is either 120 volts at 30 amps or 240 volts at 50 amps DIVIDED into 2 120 volt out of phase legs

Or electrically I'd say 240 volt center tapped. But

Everything in the RV is 120 volt.
You are of course correct. The real OP's problem at home is all power is 50hz, not 60hz like in the US and the requirements of his coach.
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Smile electricity requirments for export to Australia.

thank you so much for replies,
the HZ thing from 50-60 what does that affect
what is a good piece of equipment what is just ok?????
can the power conversion to step down from 240-110 be done here in the usa.
also if anybody knows of a reliable LH to RH conversion mechanic here i would like to know.
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thank you so much for replies,
the HZ thing from 50-60 what does that affect
what is a good piece of equipment what is just ok?????
can the power conversion to step down from 240-110 be done here in the usa.
also if anybody knows of a reliable LH to RH conversion mechanic here i would like to know.
Frequency affects some types of electric motors which will run slow and hot.

Can't help thinking, even if you could get a coach converted to RH drive, it would be a very expensive conversion. That plus the cost of shipping a motor home to Australia might add up to more than it is worth?
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Unless you have residential refrigerator or washer dryer the simplest thing to do would be to swap out the converter/charger for an AU model. You'll also need to change circuit breakers to be 240 v, 50 hz agreeable. Then change the plug end on the power cord. 30 amp cord would be much easier to change than a 50 amp service, I'm not sure if AU campgrounds have 50 amp service. TV and DVD player also has to be replaced, with AU compatible components.
Stepping out of the rig will require caution since you'll be on the traffic side. Campground hook ups will also be on the 'wrong' side.

When you ship the RV, can I send some things to my daughter in Byron Bay? Shipping packages can be expensive, you perhaps can defray costs by packing RV like a shipping container!
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Does it 'need' to be converted to RH drive ?
I'm in Canada, and see loads of LH drive vehicles on the road.
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In addition I forgot to add you'll need a new microwave and change all the 120 v AC outlets to AU outlets, new 240 v heating element for fridge,
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