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Old 06-24-2014, 11:29 PM   #1
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Help! black water woes...96 Tropical 36'

hi guys Im a newbie to the RV life. i just bought this rig. it has 26,000 miles on it. but was let go by the 2nd last PO . the guy i bought it off of re ply'd the roof and re skinned it as well as all new flooring and a fridge...

anyways i am about 99% sure i have a leak between the toilet and the 3" exit outlet of the black water tank.

i have removed the access panel in the draining compartment but can only see the pipe heading to the front of the rig


have any of you accessed this tank before? do i need to tear out my whole bathroom? any help or info on this would be great. I plan on living in this for 1 year at least starting in 20 days

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Old 06-25-2014, 07:06 AM   #2
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You should replace the toilet seal first. That could be the problem, it was on my coach.
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Old 06-25-2014, 11:24 AM   #3
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I believe your rig is a gasser before National changed it to a DP. If is and like my Dolphin there is a access panel in the storage bay just in front of the rear axle. Remove it and you can see your tank. As already said change the flange gasket first.

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Old 06-26-2014, 12:55 PM   #4
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thanks, i am in deep now

man I got in deep... i here are some pics... yesterday this was in useable condition...yes its a gasser ford, F53 i believe. thanks for your replies. i will take rthe toilet off and see what the seal looks like i guess, cant hurt. I will take the rig to a local school paring lot where i can roll underneetth with a cralwer and look for this access panel.. i also found damp/wet walls . managed to brake the outlet of my water pump in the tear down :(
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:26 PM   #5
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rvlivn,
The access panel I mentioned is inside the storage bay, goes all the way across the raised area. Mine has a couple of screws holding it in place. After looking at the pictures again, yours may not be the same as mine. My fresh water tanks are under the floor of the bedroom.

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Still have urine smell in bay below toilet

We had the toilet pulled and the gasket replaced on our 2002 Dolphin 6355 LX gasser; however we do have some leaking into the bay below ONLY on occasion after we are bouncing along to our destination and 1 time we had water in it when we filled up our black tank from the outside flushing it with the tank flush. Maybe I filled it up to much that time. Don't know
We still have a urine smell in the compartment below so I am going to scrub and bleach it and leave the bay door open till it drys and see what happens.
Then where do we look from there. Even when you are sitting outsde it is very strong. I did remove the housing around the black tank but did not see any leakage or evidence of it doing that but it sure is stinky. Open to suggestions.
Any help will be appreciated.
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Just a thought ... I had a problem with with the dreaded pyramid of poo. The toilet was on a raised platform and emptied into the 3 in pipe that traveled about 2 ft horizontally and then turned down and went into the black tank. Where the pipe went into the tank, it went through a rubber seal on top of the tank. It was just a friction fit.
When the pyramid reached the top of tank, it blocked the exit of the pipe and caused the fluids to back up through the rubber seal and overflow on to the top of the tank. That sludge remained on top of the tank and was quite stinky. Very difficult to clean it off. All I could do is spray with a hose because the top of the tank was right under the floor. Also, the top of tank was slightly concave, so the fluids tended to remain on top of the tank.
Another thought, smell may be trapped in any wood that has been soaked from sewage leaking.
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Thanks for the input is gives me somewhere to start looking.
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What can you put in your drains to disolve hair, grease, ect. that won't hurt the pipes or ruin the sensors. Can you use something like draino or another liquid cleaner. When you shower you are ALWAYS standing in a good inch or two of water. Runs slower than it did before. I was told to put a snake down it like you use at home BUT I don't know if that is a good idea or not. Any input is appreciated.
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What can you put in your drains to disolve hair, grease, ect. that won't hurt the pipes or ruin the sensors. Can you use something like draino or another liquid cleaner. When you shower you are ALWAYS standing in a good inch or two of water. Runs slower than it did before. I was told to put a snake down it like you use at home BUT I don't know if that is a good idea or not. Any input is appreciated.
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A liquid cleaner would probably work or you could try these. Should be available in most big box stores.

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You can use any drain cleaner, I have with no problems. The drain lines are ABS plastic just like is used in homes. The storage tank is plastic and won't hurt it. The drain cleaner is sold in plastic bottles. The only concern is the rubber seal of the dump valve. Just make sure there's half a tank or more of water to dilute the chemical.

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1/2 cup of baking soda poured into the drain then 1 cup of vinegar. It's a cheap fix.
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Thank you everybody for your input.
I went out to Lowe's and found the plastic auger you suggested and am anxious to try it. From the way it is made it looks like it will work.
Then we are going to try the baking soda and white vinegar also.
IF this does not work then as a last resort I will try a product like draino.
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