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Old 05-21-2020, 03:21 PM   #1
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Oil Filter Removal Question for a 1999 Tradewinds

Well, a seemingly simple task of changing the oil in our CAT 3126B has me stumped. This is the first oil change since we took possession of the MH last year. After several attempts with several different types of filter removal tools, I just can't seem to get the filter to budge. I was however very successful in denting the outer shell of the filter!

Any trade secrets you might be willing to share?

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Old 05-21-2020, 03:36 PM   #2
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oil nfilter removal

if you have exhausted all the filter wrenches application and have already tried the old strap wrench...if you have to it's messy but always works, take a 5 or 6 inch sharp ended tool like a phillips screwdriver and drive it straight through the middle of the filter and twist it till it becomes loose....
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Train Guy you must be an old time wrencher :>) your suggestion is spot on. I've gone beyond that stage and down to the threaded steel filter plate. Can gone, filter paper gone, strainer gone . Had to make a spanner wrench to match the holes in the plate.
Must have been a yahoo that had gorilla mussels .

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Old 05-21-2020, 03:47 PM   #4
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I've had my best luck with the steel band wrench that you use with a 1/2" drive ratchet. Get the band as close to the top of the filter as possible.
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Old 05-21-2020, 07:22 PM   #5
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Thanks everyone. Going to try the ratchet option, and then move in on the screwdriver-cursing alternative as the last attempt.
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Old 05-21-2020, 07:40 PM   #6
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Yep, a lot of old time talent here.

Post a picture or two for even more fun. I have a neat filter wrench that you use a ratchet or breaker bar if needed.

One of my first fuel filter changes was met with incredible difficulty. Monaco sprayed undercoating everywhere and glued the filter in place. I had to remove the fuel filter mount and put that in my bench vice. A three foot pipe wrench and a lot of grunting finally broke it loose.

A heat gun or maybe a tiny torch to just heat the base of the filter. Incredible caution of course and you can use aluminum foil rumpled up as heat shields for nearby places.

Too bad you can't dust the filter for prints and then hunt down and kill the miserable person that did not put a dab of oil on the gasket or used a filter wrench to tighten it.

Be sure you inspect the filter mount for anything left behind. A double gasket will fill the shop floor with oil in about thirty seconds. Got the tee shirt on that one.
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Oil filter gasket was left dry when filter was installed.....a little oil on the new seal works wonders for next time....
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You can use a chisel and hammer on the ring at the top of the filter of you can get to it.
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Yep
Like grandpa said
Not going to use this filter again.
Your being way to gentle, your waisting way to much time. hammer and blunt wide screw driver or chissel.
Ive had to chissel the ring out before on bulldozers and old tractor's that had sat.

Dont damage the housing.

I did replace one housing in 50 years. It was time

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You can use a chisel and hammer on the ring at the top of the filter of you can get to it.
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Yep
Like grandpa said
Not going to use this filter again.
Your being way to gentle, your waisting way to much time. hammer and blunt wide screw driver or chissel.
Ive had to chissel the ring out before on bulldozers and old tractor's that had sat.

Dont damage the housing.

I did replace one housing in 50 years. It was time
Yeah, no room to get to the base of the filter w/ much more than a flashlight. Just waiting on a heavy duty ratchet/metal strap tool to arrive to make another attempt. Thanks for the feedback. Willie
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Im sure your room is limited willie

But we are talking ripping the can off with a
screw driver or chissel in 30 seconds so just the ring is visible.
Then knock the ring out quick.

Old timers and professional mechanics didnt waist time nor could charge to go through finding the correct tool.

But Good luck
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Is the engine warm or cold when you are trying to remove the filter?

If it's cold start the engine and let it warm up.

Have to do this on mine and I'm the only person who has changed the oil/filter since it was brand new so I know it wasn't over tightened.

Also the mention of oiling the new gasket is a must as far as I'm concerned.
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Oil Filter Removal

Best Tool Ever!!!!!

The oil filter removal tool arrived from Amazon today. I was pretty happy to see the construction had some mass to it. It was simple but sturdy and happily up for the job. I snugged it up as close as possible to the top of the filter, added a couple ratchet extensions and it only took one or two tugs to get the filter off. I would recommend it to anyone w/ the same challenge, and the tool comes in different sizes. I attached the link below in case you're interested. Thanks for all the feedback.

(Now if only I could get the genny oil drain plug to give up its hold)

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I learned after my first oil change that was what I needed also.. Was sold at NAPA auto parts store.. very big and very heavy.. I use a 18 inch extension and a 18 inch cheater bar and a couple of good tugs and it comes loose every time now. I also have the Fumoto valve to drain.. At my age anything I can do to make it easier the better..
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