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Old 08-11-2014, 11:53 AM   #1
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Power Gear Leveling Jacks

First timer here, so be gentle. I have a 2002 National Seabreeze. I am having trouble with my leveling jacks. I can press the power on button, light does come on but when I press any of the other buttons it shuts off. I have checked every fuse in the RV inside and out. All are ok. Fluid level is ok. E-mailed Power Gear. This what they said....When it shuts down like this, it is because of low voltage to the control box or a bad or weak ground coming into the control box. Checking at the separate control box (not the touchpad), you have a ground signal on pin 1 of the 8 pin plug, this will be a black wire with a white tracer, this is your incoming ground into the system. On the 6 pin main power connector, pin 5 which is the center pin that is shaped like a "D", this is your incoming voltage, you need to verify you have at least 12vdc with the coach running. Use the pin 1 black wire ground that you check it against. Make sure to check this when trying to operate the system so you check it under a load. Thank you.

How do I check that? I don't own a multimeter. Also, how can I check it if I can't get it to stay on when i push the jack to engage? Any help would be appreciated.
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How do I check that? I don't own a multimeter.
Do you know how to use a multimeter if you had one? If yes, then they are not that expensive....less than $10 for a simple one. If no, then you will have to find a friend who can use one and hopefully has one. Most do-it-yourselfer's have multimeters. Rook
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I did find someone who has a multimeter. It did read below 12v. Now what?
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How do I check that? I don't own a multimeter.
Hi Fritshe,

First thing - buy a multimeter. I use mine all the time on the RV. A ten dollar unit is far better than nothing and pretty good ones are available in the $50-$75 range. For this type of troubleshooting, expensive is not necessary. You don't particularly care (for this) if the voltage being detected is 12.43223 volts or 12.5.

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I can press the power on button, light does come on but when I press any of the other buttons it shuts off.
I am no expert but have battled my Power Gear system a few times.
  • Is the engine running? If not, try it that way. The pump requires a lot of electricity, mine does not like to run without the engine supplying that electricity.
  • On some versions of the Power Gear system, there is a control panel and also a control box. I understand that there are fuses on the control box, possibly this is worth checking.
  • The inline fuse on mine (very near the solenoid) was intermittent. Caused me all sorts of headaches. Just sharing as something to be aware of.
  • The park switch is a bit picky on my rig. There is a position that, with the gear selector in park, the switch does not like. I have to jiggle the gear selector a bit.

Testing for voltage is pretty straight forward. Assuming you are testing a wire for the presence of 12V positive: put your new multimeter on DC, probably the "20" setting, connect the black/negative lead to a ground, connect the red/positive lead to the thing you are testing, and read the number on the screen. If it is negative, you have the leads connected backwards - this will not hurt your meter (with DC voltage).


Finally, download a copy of the parts and service manual from Power Gear. It has a pretty good troubleshooting guide in the back. Follow the steps thru in order and you'll likely arrive at the problem.

Hope that helps!
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Have you tried to work the jacks with the engine running or plugged in to shore power.
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Engine is running. I checked the fuses at the control box. There are 4 of them and they all are good. The fuse by the solenoid is also good.
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I have the engine running and connected to shore power.
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Assuming you followed the instructions from Power Gear, and you got less than 12 volts, then what reading did you get. Likely, you have a defective ground on pin 1 of the 8 pin plug. To verify this, measure from the 6 pin main power connector, pin 5 which is the center pin that is shaped like a "D" to a known good ground......like the outside ring (ground) on the cigar lighter..... you should get over 13 volts with the engine running. If this is verified, then you do have a bad ground on pin1. Rook
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Rook, I did what you said to try and it is a much higher reading. Where should I go next?
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OK, You have verified that you have a bad (resistive) ground on pin 1 (blk wire, white stripe).....and thats why you have less than 12 volts on pin 5, using pin 1 as a ground, and that's very likely why your power jacks don't work. My wiring diagram shows that pin 1 blk & wht wire goes through a plug and then directly to a chassis ground somewhere. If you can find that plug, open it (unlplug) and check for corrosion on the connectors, especially the pins for the blk & wht wire. Rook
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.........and see if you can trace the blk & wht wire back to where it is grounded to the chassis frame.......if you can find that, clean it of all corrosion re-ground it to bright metal chassis. Use some "conducting" grease if you have it. That ought to fix it! Rook
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Check and clean the ground wire and motor terminal and add a star washer if it does not have one. That was my problem and is a very common problem to the point the the mfg. recommends doing that every 6 months. I do not think that is necessary but every couple of years would seem plenty. It took over 10 years of neglect before it became a problem for me.
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