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04-11-2021, 01:35 PM
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Worked when I stored it for the winter.
Hello everyone, I have a problem with my 01 National Surf Side. I just uncovered it to get it ready for a trip and it won't start. Turning the key elicits zero reaction! No sound, or clicking, or anything. I have checked every fuse and breaker. My batteries are charged up everything else works inside the coach. It seem like there isn't power getting to the ignition switch. The power to the right side of the dash (stereo head unit, ac fans, cigarette lighter) don't seem to work as well.
Everything to the left of the steering wheel seems to work fine, but those don't rely on the keyed source to run. Everything worked when i parked it. Any ideas?
Grant
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04-11-2021, 09:01 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pepino1256
Hello everyone, I have a problem with my 01 National Surf Side. I just uncovered it to get it ready for a trip and it won't start. Turning the key elicits zero reaction! No sound, or clicking, or anything. I have checked every fuse and breaker. My batteries are charged up everything else works inside the coach. It seem like there isn't power getting to the ignition switch. The power to the right side of the dash (stereo head unit, ac fans, cigarette lighter) don't seem to work as well.
Everything to the left of the steering wheel seems to work fine, but those don't rely on the keyed source to run. Everything worked when i parked it. Any ideas?
Grant
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Rodents? They love wiring.
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04-12-2021, 05:21 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: indiana/florida
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got your storage switch turned on?
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04-12-2021, 08:04 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 7
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Originally Posted by CamJam1
Rodents? They love wiring.
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Possible. There isn't any indication of them inside the cabin. Maybe I will take off the motor cover and inspect down there.
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04-12-2021, 08:07 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2021
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Originally Posted by inbogie
got your storage switch turned on?
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This is my first rv and I don't know where the storage switch is? There doesn't seem to be one where the circuit board that distributes power to everything. (in the understorage compartment to the right of the entry door)
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04-12-2021, 08:14 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2021
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pepino1256
Hello everyone, I have a problem with my 01 National Surf Side. I just uncovered it to get it ready for a trip and it won't start. Turning the key elicits zero reaction! No sound, or clicking, or anything. I have checked every fuse and breaker. My batteries are charged up everything else works inside the coach. It seem like there isn't power getting to the ignition switch. The power to the right side of the dash (stereo head unit, ac fans, cigarette lighter) don't seem to work as well.
Everything to the left of the steering wheel seems to work fine, but those don't rely on the keyed source to run. Everything worked when i parked it. Any ideas?
Grant
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Tap the starter. Sometimes they stick after long storage.
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04-12-2021, 09:35 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Is the shifter pad lighting up ?
No shifter lights, no start.
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04-12-2021, 09:44 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 1,205
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Originally Posted by ScttBvr
Tap the starter. Sometimes they stick after long storage.
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Nope, the OP stated nothing works that should from the key i.e. lights, gauges...
OP, do you have a Battery Control Center (BCC) under the hood? There is a relay that takes chassis battery power and routes it to the ignition.
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04-12-2021, 12:48 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: indiana/florida
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if you tell us what we are working on we might be able to help you more. the storage switch is usually by the door but i have seen them up around the cockpit.
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04-12-2021, 02:01 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Yuma Arizona USA
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When you put it to bed for the winter did you shut off the main battery disconnect switch? If so when you turned it back on it may have failed. Meter from one side of the battery disconnect to the other if you read voltage the switch is bad. You can also test by using a battery jumper cable and just jumper across the switch then try to start the coach.
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04-12-2021, 10:42 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2021
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Quote:
Originally Posted by inbogie
if you tell us what we are working on we might be able to help you more. the storage switch is usually by the door but i have seen them up around the cockpit.
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In my original post I have it listed. It's a 2001 national surf side. Its 33' with two slide outs.
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04-12-2021, 10:43 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2021
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldWEB
Nope, the OP stated nothing works that should from the key i.e. lights, gauges...
OP, do you have a Battery Control Center (BCC) under the hood? There is a relay that takes chassis battery power and routes it to the ignition.
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I will check this first thing tomorrow.
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04-12-2021, 10:45 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twinboat
Is the shifter pad lighting up ?
No shifter lights, no start.
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Nothing on the dash lights up.
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04-13-2021, 12:59 AM
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Senior Member
National RV Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Horse Town USA, CA.
Posts: 3,783
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Your Battery Control Center (BCC) is in the compartment right side between the right front tire and entry door. National RV did not include a chassis disconnect relay in their motorhomes.
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