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Old 11-18-2015, 05:14 PM   #1
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2016 32sa

Looking at an Allegro 32SA. Comparing with a Newmar Bay Star. I am looking for weight specs. What is the Unloaded Vehicle Weight and Net Carrying Capacity of the 32SA. I know it is on the 24,000 chassis. I know options will effect this but can't find any of the above info in any brochures.
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Old 11-19-2015, 08:16 AM   #2
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I have the 31SA on the 24k chassis, and have a 3,600# CCC. That is with full water, full propane, and 4 passengers which they calculate at ~600#s. So in reality, I have about 4,000#s CCC as we normally travel. My "mostly loaded" weight was 21,500#s (while that may look very close to the limit of a 31SA on the standard 22k chassis, the 24k chassis adds 500#s, so a net gain of 1500# for chassis capacity, so I would estimate I would have been sitting at about 21,000#s mostly loaded on the 22k chassis).

I have the residential fridge, larger generator, and most other options.

Not sure how much the extra foot of a 32SA adds to the overall weight of the coach, but as you can see, I am nowhere near close to the 24k GVW in a 31SA.
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:20 PM   #3
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The information page in the closet of our 2016 32SA shows CCC as 2974 pounds. Says this includes 4 people at 154 pounds each as part of payload, so I guess with just my wife and I, we've got a couple hundred pounds more than the 2974.

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Old 11-19-2015, 06:56 PM   #4
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Thanks for the replies. that is exactly the information I was looking for.

JimHB, what options are on your rig?
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Old 11-20-2015, 07:43 AM   #5
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Options: Residential Refrigerator w/ total of 4 batteries, 2000 watt Inverter, 7000 watt Generator, Drop Down Bunk, SUMO Springs, Driver's Door, Central Vac System, Convection Microwave, Fireplace, Bedroom Ceiling Fan. No additional TVs - with just the wife and I most of the time, the standard locations are enough.

So far, two trips, all is working well. Even the auto gen start, which has been problematic with others. We had to get one shade and one sconce light replaced at dealership. Dealer also said they rewired to include the microwave on the inverted power, so I guess that's not standard?

I've added the Progressive Industries EMS (inside mount, under the transfer switch), and EEZ tire pressure monitoring. Wife has been busy finding efficient and quiet ways to store all the kitchen stuff. I added a 50 amp receptacle at home, which is nice when packing/unpacking and keeping everything powered. Also use the Sewer Solution for dumping tanks - works well, just slow.

Gotchas I've dealt with -
The separate radio power switch on the dash - took me a couple hours to realize the radio wasn't broken.
Getting the DVD player to work on living room TV - have to have the splitter/fan switch turned on.
Inverter automatically switches off auto gen start after the generator has been manually stopped manually stopped. Needs to be reset.

Compared to the Bay Star - they are very similar. I believe you get the fiberglass roof with Tiffin vs BriteTek. Several of the option upgrades we got were not available from Newmar. Allegro is 24,000# chassis, Bay Star is 22,000#. We preferred the Tiffin color schemes - ended up with Light HALO leatherette (cream), English Chestnut cabinets, Cocoa Interior, Maroon Coral exterior.
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Old 11-20-2015, 03:21 PM   #6
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JimHB, Your rig sounds very nice. We almost exclusively boondock (usually at race tracks around Indiana), so we are leaning away from the residential refrigerator. Also agree, the Tiffin color schemes seem to be a bit more attractive.

We are still stuck between the Tiffin Allegro 32SA and the Newmar Bay Star 3401. Both have plusses and minuses and similar price points.
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I can't really advise much on res refrig use while extended boondocking, maybe others can chime in how well that works? On the trip back to Texas from Mississippi, we stayed where no electric was available for a few nights, and just used the generator (on thermostat autostart), which kept the batteries charged and the refrig running fine. I've read the refrig can run on the batteries for at least a day or two depending on other usage before needing the generator for a couple of hours. The res refrig is definitely bigger than most propane ones, which might be a side benefit while boondocking?

Just another gotcha - it looks like the fireplace doesn't work off the inverter, probably due to the electric heater wattage? I'd hooked up electric at the house, was in the RV starting up everything, but the fireplace wouldn't work. Finally went and checked the receptacle breaker and I'd forgotten to flip it on - with so much running off the 2k inverter, I didn't realize I'd missed that.
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There is no comparison to the Tiffin Allegro Open Road and the Bay Star. If you want a comparison look at the Canyon Star.
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Old 12-04-2015, 06:10 PM   #9
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I agree the Tiffin has more for the price compared to the Bay Star. We just purchased our 2016 32sa with similar options as Jim (minus the bunk) in October. We've been on four trips already and it drives like a dream. The Bay Star 3401 was our first choice until we saw the Tiffin. Good luck with your choice, in the end their both awesome coaches!
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yep we were down to the 32SA and the Baystar, the decider for me 6'7" was the 7 foot interior height compared to baystars 6'8" and the one piece fiberglass roof,,,,can't wait for ours
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You've got a generator auto start? You add it?

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Old 12-26-2015, 07:53 AM   #12
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The generator autostart is a standard feature of the optional magnum 2000w inverter, if i remember correctly. Will autostart based on thermostat input, or battery voltage level. The controller can also be programmed with quiet times so it doesn't start then.

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