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Old 05-17-2020, 08:17 PM   #1
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2020 Phaeton 40IH OCCC question

I have a 2020 40IH that just arrived at the dealership. The OCCC capacity is 4920 lbs. This seems low to me. The coach does have propane and Iím thinking this is partially responsible for this. Do the all electric 40IH have a higher carrying capacity? I also have the three solar panel option which may contribute as well. If you could post your 40IH OCCC I would be interested to see how mine compares.
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I think your doing well. We have a 2019 Bus 40AP and our OCCC is 3780!

Be happy with what you have. Also remember the more you carry the less fuel economy.
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Thanks for the info.
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us folks down in the wayfarer and open road category, sit in bewilderment. we have proclaimed the benefits of our gas and class c...

and our occc that run from 1,000 to 2500.

congrats and salutes to the big diesels!!
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Just how much stuff do you think you are going to load in there? We fulltimed and our max load of "stuff" was barely 2000 lbs.
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JMHO: I would think that the OCCC on an all electric coach would be lower due to the extra batteries , heavier battery tray , larger inverter , etc.

4920 lbs. you'll be fine , as said 2,000 lbs is a LOT of stuff .
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I have a 2020 40IH that just arrived at the dealership. The OCCC capacity is 4920 lbs. This seems low to me. The coach does have propane and Iím thinking this is partially responsible for this. Do the all electric 40IH have a higher carrying capacity? I also have the three solar panel option which may contribute as well. If you could post your 40IH OCCC I would be interested to see how mine compares.
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The solar panels may make the difference a little. Our CCC is 5075 and is propane equipped like yours. I know there have been some additions like the pull out tray in the hydraulic compartment that adds weight to yours. Even with ours fully loaded we are still over 2,500lbs below GVWR.
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I appreciate all the replies and information. I looked at this a little closer to see where the extra weight comes in for the propane configuration.

Propane tank: 125 lbs empty
Propane: 114 lbs at 34.9 gallon capacity (though is can only be filled to 80%)
Suburban Furnaces: 70 lbs for the two of them
Truma Hot Water Heater: 40 lbs
Misc brackets and piping for the propane tank and distribution: 30 lbs
Gas cooktop: About a 10 lb adder over the induction cooktop

In addition I have three solar panels. The weight for the panels, mounting hardware, wiring and controller is about 100 lbs.

The propane system total is 390 lbs. The AquaHot system weighs 113 lbs full. The difference between the all electric option and the standard propane configuration is about 285 lbs comparatively. My OCCC is further decreased by the 100 lb solar panel option, and I also have two slide out trays. Very understandable where the 4920 OCCC rating comes from.

Very happy with the new IH at first glance. PDI scheduled for Friday.
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If you can wait until Thursday night, I'll let you know ours. It's at the dealer for some service & we pick it up that day. We're all electric & have 2 slide trays in the main bays. We weighed it on the way home after we bought it last yr, so I've got an empty (well, except for about a 50lb box of extra floor tiles that were in one bay & a full tank of gas) weight.

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I appreciate all the replies and information. I looked at this a little closer to see where the extra weight comes in for the propane configuration.



Propane tank: 125 lbs empty

Propane: 114 lbs at 34.9 gallon capacity (though is can only be filled to 80%)

Suburban Furnaces: 70 lbs for the two of them

Truma Hot Water Heater: 40 lbs

Misc brackets and piping for the propane tank and distribution: 30 lbs

Gas cooktop: About a 10 lb adder over the induction cooktop



In addition I have three solar panels. The weight for the panels, mounting hardware, wiring and controller is about 100 lbs.



The propane system total is 390 lbs. The AquaHot system weighs 113 lbs full. The difference between the all electric option and the standard propane configuration is about 285 lbs comparatively. My OCCC is further decreased by the 100 lb solar panel option, and I also have two slide out trays. Very understandable where the 4920 OCCC rating comes from.



Very happy with the new IH at first glance. PDI scheduled for Friday.


Your going to love it! You selected a great coach model.
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You may already know this, but be sure to do a 4-corner weight check, or at least axle weights if you can't do the 4 corners. While you may have an OCCC of 4,920, I would be surprised if it is all usable. The way they're building these things these days, tag axle coaches normally don't have much room left on the front axle, and single rear axle coaches normally won't take the full OCCC either because of the rear axle rating. Congrats on your new ride!!!
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us folks down in the wayfarer and open road category, sit in bewilderment. we have proclaimed the benefits of our gas and class c...

and our occc that run from 1,000 to 2500.

congrats and salutes to the big diesels!!
My Class C was about 1,800 lbs but our Open Road 32SA with 24k chassis is 3,489! I was ecstatic when I found this out on delivery but was expecting a pretty good number; the whole reason to order the beefier chassis. As stated you need to put a lot of stuff in a rig to even sniff that number.
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I appreciate all the replies and information. I looked at this a little closer to see where the extra weight comes in for the propane configuration.

Propane tank: 125 lbs empty
Propane: 114 lbs at 34.9 gallon capacity (though is can only be filled to 80%)
Suburban Furnaces: 70 lbs for the two of them
Truma Hot Water Heater: 40 lbs
Misc brackets and piping for the propane tank and distribution: 30 lbs
Gas cooktop: About a 10 lb adder over the induction cooktop

In addition I have three solar panels. The weight for the panels, mounting hardware, wiring and controller is about 100 lbs.

The propane system total is 390 lbs. The AquaHot system weighs 113 lbs full. The difference between the all electric option and the standard propane configuration is about 285 lbs comparatively. My OCCC is further decreased by the 100 lb solar panel option, and I also have two slide out trays. Very understandable where the 4920 OCCC rating comes from.

Very happy with the new IH at first glance. PDI scheduled for Friday.
We are taking delivery of our 40IH Friday too!!! In Memphis. Same set up. Fire opal
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You may already know this, but be sure to do a 4-corner weight check, or at least axle weights if you can't do the 4 corners. While you may have an OCCC of 4,920, I would be surprised if it is all usable. The way they're building these things these days, tag axle coaches normally don't have much room left on the front axle, and single rear axle coaches normally won't take the full OCCC either because of the rear axle rating. Congrats on your new ride!!!
True , Tiffin is on the edge with there 40 ' coach single rear axel. Not to mention when the tag is in play the front axle is on the weight limit. 1-2 years Tiffin will beef up the front axel. They have a headspace problem with increasing the front tire size to accommodate the increased FA rating of the future. Look at Numar F axel ratings.
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