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Papachuckl97 · 05-23-2022, 12:40 AM

Are there any solutions to make the factory bump stops work or does anyone know if Ford is going to address the bump stop design issue? We have a 2021 34PA Allegro Open Road and looked for bump stops after Face Book group mentioned they are falling off. Sure enough our front bump stops are missing. I decided to purchase new ones and install myself since I could not get an appointment at FORD for a month. After analyzing the new bump stops I could see why they are falling off. There are little steel tabs that are supposed to grab the bump stop and hold it to the bracket. Instead of throwing away the $100 for parts I decided to use some zip ties to capture an ejected bump stomp and that is exactly what has happened. I even used some adhesive to try and get the stops to stick to the bracket but no go. After 400 miles of driving I took a look at the stops and they are hanging horizontal off the zip ties. I know I can spend approx. $645 and buy front Suma Springs or $22k and get liquid springs but I would prefer to not spend money when Ford should be designing bump stops that work. My rear bump stops seem to be bonded to the bracket and are hanging in there.

Steve-W · 05-23-2022, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Papachuckl97

Are there any solutions to make the factory bump stops work or does anyone know if Ford is going to address the bump stop design issue? We have a 2021 34PA Allegro Open Road and looked for bump stops after Face Book group mentioned they are falling off. Sure enough our front bump stops are missing. I decided to purchase new ones and install myself since I could not get an appointment at FORD for a month. After analyzing the new bump stops I could see why they are falling off. There are little steel tabs that are supposed to grab the bump stop and hold it to the bracket. Instead of throwing away the $100 for parts I decided to use some zip ties to capture an ejected bump stomp and that is exactly what has happened. I even used some adhesive to try and get the stops to stick to the bracket but no go. After 400 miles of driving I took a look at the stops and they are hanging horizontal off the zip ties. I know I can spend approx. $645 and buy front Suma Springs or $22k and get liquid springs but I would prefer to not spend money when Ford should be designing bump stops that work. My rear bump stops seem to be bonded to the bracket and are hanging in there.

I had one go AWOL on my coach during my initial 2 month long shakedown trip. On my pre trip inspection I found one missing. I was leaving again in 4 days and the Ford part was on backorder. I had Sumo springs (24K chassis) delivered the next day. Haven't looked back since, 20K + miles later. They bolt on very securely and did help the rocking on driveway to road transitions. Well worth the $$ and 45 minute install time.

The Ford mounting is not very secure for the factory stops especially since on the new chassis they are not just bump stops but an active part of the suspension. I felt it was worth the cost to have an immediate proven solution rather than waiting for Ford to possibly address the issue in the future. I installed the Sumo's in September of 2020 and as far as I know Ford has yet to make any changes/improvements in the mounting.

kandcbend · 05-23-2022, 11:48 AM

Sorry about the upside down pics - I rotated one of them, but they just still came in upside down. So, I just checked mine on our 2021 Open Road 34PA... the Ford F53 chassis was built in 2020. See the picture attached. I don't see anything that looks like a bump stop. Both sides look like this. Are they missing?

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kandcbend · 05-23-2022, 12:53 PM

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Sorry about the upside down pics - I rotated one of them, but they just still came in upside down. So, I just checked mine on our 2021 Open Road 34PA... the Ford F53 chassis was built in 2020. See the picture attached. I don't see anything that looks like a bump stop. Both sides look like this. Are they missing?Attachment 366344
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It seems strange those look like metal cups with no factory center bolts. I looked at the eTrailer instructions for installing Sumo on 2020 F53 and those cups were not there and the Sumo instructions say to reuse a factory bolt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V17pmAegqfk

kandcbend · 05-23-2022, 02:29 PM

It looks like this would be what my bump stops should be, but I only have the black metal "cup" portion of it. I have no idea what is holding those "cups" to my frame. What the heck anyway?? Would Ford issue new ones to me at their cost? My RV is only 13 months old and it has been out of commission nearly two of those months with Ford problems.

Steve-W · 05-23-2022, 03:02 PM

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It looks like this would be what my bump stops should be, but I only have the black metal "cup" portion of it. I have no idea what is holding those "cups" to my frame. What the heck anyway?? Would Ford issue new ones to me at their cost? My RV is only 13 months old and it has been out of commission nearly two of those months with Ford problems.

Yup 5e “cups” are where they are supposed to be. There is one bolt inside the recessed center hole that goes through the frame into a nut inside the frame rail. The nut has a finger welded to it to prevent it from turning when installing/removing, you can get your hand in to get it started or retrieve the nut. The sumos also use this same bolt to attach there mounting plate.

Ford may cover them under warranty, but they will be the same and may go missing again.

kandcbend · 05-23-2022, 03:11 PM

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Yup 5e “cups” are where they are supposed to be. There is one bolt inside the recessed center hole that goes through the frame into a nut inside the frame rail. The nut has a finger welded to it to prevent it from turning when installing/removing, you can get your hand in to get it started or retrieve the nut. The sumos also use this same bolt to attach there mounting plate.

Ford may cover them under warranty, but they will be the same and may go missing again.

Yep, disappointing that the same thing would no doubt happen if I replace with same. I guess I'll replace with Sumo in front... damn Ford!

Papachuckl97 · 05-23-2022, 10:42 PM

It sounds like Sumo springs are going to be the real solution. Unfortunate Ford can get by with such a weak design and make the customer Have to go to a 3rd party to get a product truly designed for the application. I have attached a jpg with pictures showing my install with zip ties to capture them when the inevitable happened.

kandcbend · 05-23-2022, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Papachuckl97

It sounds like Sumo springs are going to be the real solution. Unfortunate Ford can get by with such a weak design and make the customer Have to go to a 3rd party to get a product truly designed for the application. I have attached a jpg with pictures showing my install with zip ties to capture them when the inevitable happened.

I wonder if Ford even tests these chassis in real life conditions. Seems they would have some Motorhome manufacturers build beta units and run them through their paces. Maybe they could have caught this, and the spark plug wire failures as well. I'll definitely let them know about this... maybe enough complaints and they'll fix it for future buyers.

tstyles · 05-24-2022, 07:40 AM

2022 Open Road and one of mine was missing after my ride home from the dealer. The second one I literally just yanked it with my hand and it fell off... not very durable in my opinion. I replaced them with the Sumo Springs. I found them online for $587 drop shipped from SuperSprings. I haven't driven it yet, so no input on that. My Koni shocks will be here Thursday, I'll take it for a drive after that.

Sir Tyne · 05-24-2022, 09:29 AM

We took delivery of our 2022 OR 34PA in May. I checked for Bump Stops right away and of course they were missing. The dealer said to have a Ford Heavy Truck shop replace them under warranty. That is what I did a few weeks later in Orlando, FL. After one trip from FL to NC, guess what? They are gone again!

We already have Liquid Springs on the rear and have an appointment at the LS factory in August to have the front put on. At this point I'll just live without the Bump Stops until then.

Also, I'm currently in Red Bay waiting for service. I walked around and found 5 other 2022 OR 34PAs here, ALL of them had missing Bump Stops !!!

YesMan · 05-28-2022, 07:43 AM

Sounds like if you need replacements, just keep an eye out while on the road! They're likely scattered all over!!

jeanluc001 · 05-28-2022, 08:27 AM

check out the timbren's they are like a big bump stop
I have them on the rear of my 2012 f53 chassis sumo's on the front.

Fredtp · 05-28-2022, 06:13 PM

Buy a set of sumo springs for the front and install in place of bump stops, your ride will improve and add koni shocks. That is what I did to my 2022 34pa when mine were missing. Sumo springs take the place of bump stops.