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04-18-2019, 05:58 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club Retired Fire Service RVer's
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Can't connect to 115V shore power
New owner here. Coach tested and worked fine at the dealer on 30 amp connection. Get it home (no 30 or 50 connect here...yet) attempt to plug into a 20 amp 115 circuit and it cuts the GFI right away. Can't figure what is connected inside the coach that would draw that much juice. Would like to use inverter/converter to charge coach batteries. Any thoughts why or where to look so I can connect to 115?? For now the ol extension cord and battery charger is connected.
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Mike Whelan
2017 Tiffin Allegro Breeze 31BR
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04-18-2019, 06:00 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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You need to plug it into a non-GFI outlet and you will be fine
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Steven & Laurie
2006 Moncaco Executive Ranier
Detrioit Series 60 (515HP), Allison 4000 series
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04-18-2019, 06:02 PM
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Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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My understanding is that a GFCI does not measure load, but checks for "leaking" voltage. Many people have had this problem. I am sure smarter people that I will come along for a better explanation.
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Paul J Stough Iowa
2005 Winnebago Voyage 38J
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04-18-2019, 06:03 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club Retired Fire Service RVer's
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chargerman
You need to plug it into a non-GFI outlet and you will be fine
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Thanks, never had that problem with my old Winnebago. Not even sure if I have a non GFI in the garage. Have to do some looking.
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Mike Whelan
2017 Tiffin Allegro Breeze 31BR
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04-18-2019, 06:04 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Agreed. I have heard the reasoning behind it but I cannot recall it.
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Steven & Laurie
2006 Moncaco Executive Ranier
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04-18-2019, 06:43 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chargerman
You need to plug it into a non-GFI outlet and you will be fine
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+2 , house GFIs do not work well with RV wiring.
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2014 Phaeton 40 QBH (sold)
2022 Jeep JLURD
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04-18-2019, 06:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garykk
+2 , house GFIs do not work well with RV wiring.
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Yup.
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kenandterry
2018 Sunseeker 2430S-CD carried by a 2017 Ford E450
Bye 2010 Georgetown 330TS after 10 terrific years, as we downsize for the next phase.
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04-18-2019, 07:37 PM
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As you work thru this problem, (the answer probably being the GFCI), think about the amperage available in that outlet too. Many outlets are on 15 amp circuits, some, like your clothes washer are probably 20 amp circuits. Newer homes typically have 20 amp circuits in the garage but many older homes may be only 15 amps. Use a good heavy duty extension cord and try a few different outlets if you can.
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04-19-2019, 11:52 AM
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Tiffin Owners Club Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner iRV2 No Limits Club
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There are a lot of possibilities as the why you are tripping the GFCI circuit. All of your Garage and outdoor outlets are probably connected to one GFCI outlet. Some outdoor outlets are connected to your bathroom GFCI circuit. Anyway you are drawing more amperage then the rated amperage of the GFCI circuit. You could try plugging the RV into a inside wall outlet and see if that works. Make sure you are using a good heavy duty(12 gauge wire) extension cord. I had the same problem when I switched from a 30 amp Winnebago Adventurer to a 50 amp Tiffin Allegro 36LA. The best thing to do is have a 50 amp Outdoor outlet installed to power your RV. A very nice Outdoor 50 amp power box is sold by Home Depot, Lowes, and Amazon for around $30. A 50 amp circuit breaker in your home electric power panel ($15) and the appropriate length of 6 gauge 4 wire cable from the breaker panel to the outside box. You could use 8 gauge wire cable if the distance between power panel and outside power box isn't too long. The longer the distance the heavier the cable needed. The cable is the expensive part. Then you have all the power you will ever need for your RV and any other thing you want to plug into the 50 amp power box using the appropriate adapters. You don't need all the fancy expensive power boxes that have a 50 amp/30amp/20amp outlets in them.
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04-19-2019, 12:03 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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I believe your Tiffin RV came from the factory with a built in surge guard. Surge guards don't play well with GFI circuits.
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Wayne & Roberta
08 Winnebago Destination 39W Gas UFO Workhorse Chassis......It's really weird being the same age as old people. I thought getting old would take much longer.
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04-19-2019, 12:11 PM
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GFI's outlets do not trip with overload. they trip with leakage. 2 Gfii's don't play nice together. Garage outlets in newer homes are all GFI'ed. You washer may not be if in the garage. What you can try is tripping the GFI in you trailer and the problem may stop. Please try that and let me know if it works. I'm testing a theory.
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04-19-2019, 12:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flywithcoop
There are a lot of possibilities as the why you are tripping the GFCI circuit. All of your Garage and outdoor outlets are probably connected to one GFCI outlet. Some outdoor outlets are connected to your bathroom GFCI circuit. Anyway you are drawing more amperage then the rated amperage of the GFCI circuit. You could try plugging the RV into a inside wall outlet and see if that works. Make sure you are using a good heavy duty(12 gauge wire) extension cord. I had the same problem when I switched from a 30 amp Winnebago Adventurer to a 50 amp Tiffin Allegro 36LA. The best thing to do is have a 50 amp Outdoor outlet installed to power your RV. A very nice Outdoor 50 amp power box is sold by Home Depot, Lowes, and Amazon for around $30. A 50 amp circuit breaker in your home electric power panel ($15) and the appropriate length of 6 gauge 4 wire cable from the breaker panel to the outside box. You could use 8 gauge wire cable if the distance between power panel and outside power box isn't too long. The longer the distance the heavier the cable needed. The cable is the expensive part. Then you have all the power you will ever need for your RV and any other thing you want to plug into the 50 amp power box using the appropriate adapters. You don't need all the fancy expensive power boxes that have a 50 amp/30amp/20amp outlets in them.
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GFI outlets do not trip on amperage overload.
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04-19-2019, 12:20 PM
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Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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On one occasion we were trying to connect to a 20 amp circuit that was a GFCI and it would kick out the GFCI until I shut off the breaker to the converter/charger.
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Paul J Stough Iowa
2005 Winnebago Voyage 38J
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04-21-2019, 10:04 AM
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Tiffin Owners Club Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner iRV2 No Limits Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cavie
GFI outlets do not trip on amperage overload.
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You are right. The leakage was so great that the GFCI outlet tripped. No leakage until the A/C was turned on.
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