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06-25-2019, 07:03 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: south
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End of model year pricing
does tiffin help dealers with cost at the end of the year.. ?
i'm pretty sure some other brands do so...
"thanks for your offer, we can't do that. but i've got a call in to our district rep for SOB, and i'll ask him if we can get some help on the model you are asking about." i've been told this sentence by SOB dealership before...
but, i've always heard that all tiffin's are paid for by the dealer at delivery...
so, what do you think? or better yet, what do you know?
it makes sense that the dealer would be motivated to move last year stock as the new year models are becoming available... so they might reduce their price to get the units off the lot and stop the financing costs that are piling up.
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06-25-2019, 07:25 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Houston TX.
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Just remember this, every rv deprecates 10% a year. As soon as the following model year comes out all last years models just lost that 10% value when you go to sell. Also most rv manufacturers mark up rvs along this line.
Cost to build $100k
Cost to dealer $200k
Msrp to public $300k
This is reason you can and should get around 30% off when buying current, last years, model year. Only you can decide what is a reasonable profit but at above example dealer makes 10k when you get 30% discount. My advise order new once new model year comes out. Dealers buy unit when delivered and you will never get the 10% extra off price on current inventory on lot. Good luck
Enjoy the journey
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06-25-2019, 07:28 AM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Las Cruces, NM
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Tiffin requires that all coaches be paid for, in full, before they leave the factory. Most coaches built are already sold and are not for dealer stock. Any deal you make will be between you and the selling dealer with no year end incentives from Tiffin.
You should be looking for discounts from 25-30% regardless of the time of year.
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2017 Winnebago Navion 24V (Sold)
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06-25-2019, 01:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by luvlabs
Tiffin requires that all coaches be paid for, in full, before they leave the factory. Most coaches built are already sold and are not for dealer stock. Any deal you make will be between you and the selling dealer with no year end incentives from Tiffin.
You should be looking for discounts from 25-30% regardless of the time of year.
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Exactly right as far as paid for totally by the dealer before the unit leaves the factory. We spent a few weeks at the factory watching the 2013 Bus being built and I got those words directly from Bob Tiffin. I know nothing about year end rebates from the factory to the dealer, but if the dealer already paid for the unit in full, he's still paying interest and carrying charges to his bank (financing agency) so his costs continue as long as that unit is on his lot. The newer model year units make last year's models harder to move so he does have an incentive to move that "year old" unit.
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06-26-2019, 08:08 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Amory, Ms
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I've never seen a leftover last year Tiffin sitting on a lot. I'm sure they exist, I've just never seen one.
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06-26-2019, 03:33 PM
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Location: Monroe, NC
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Seriously not trying to be a contrarian here - but if most are built for customer order how are so many in dealer inventory? You did say ‘most’ so I I don’t know how many Tiffin builds yearly. Also just did a quick look and found several new 2018 models still in dealer inventory. Granted that’s looking at their websites and did not call or go there in person.
Chuck
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06-26-2019, 06:46 PM
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Tiffin requires every coach to be paid for before it is delivered. Dealers can and do order MHs to have new coaches on there lot but at the factory a coach with an individuals name on it moves in front of a coach with a dealers name on it. My local dealer orders 12-20 coaches every year for stock but are lucky to get one or two and some years do not get any. If they have a new Tiffin on their lot, odds are it was ordered by someone and for some reason they were unable to complete the purchase. Plus the dealers are required to pay up front for that coach, it’s not like a Ford dealer with lot full of pickups who are floor planning.
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06-27-2019, 03:27 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Monroe, NC
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End of model year pricing
Good to know. I thought my dealer was small but they have 10 on the lot now. However all are ‘19 models - no ‘20 models yet like the big dealers have. So to the OP I would definitely try to talk to a dealer that already has ‘20 models on the lot if ‘19s are still available. Certainly can’t hurt to ask. But as others have said I don’t think dealers get any markdown money back from Tiffin on year end. They are simply too popular.
I’ve not done this but there are numerous threads about ordering through a dealer for a flat fee. I’m sure others on here can speak to that.
Good luck which ever way you go. I love my Tiffin gasser - best gas coach I’ve ever owned!
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2022 Regency Ultra Brougham 25IB/Nissan Frontier
NJ4B F261484 ('16 Tiffin 32SA - Sold)
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06-28-2019, 06:51 AM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Olalla , WA
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Well there is a 2017 Zephyr down in TX and up intil just lately it was marked as new.
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06-28-2019, 07:09 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck&Pam
Good to know. I thought my dealer was small but they have 10 on the lot now. However all are ‘19 models - no ‘20 models yet like the big dealers have. So to the OP I would definitely try to talk to a dealer that already has ‘20 models on the lot if ‘19s are still available. Certainly can’t hurt to ask. But as others have said I don’t think dealers get any markdown money back from Tiffin on year end. They are simply too popular.
I’ve not done this but there are numerous threads about ordering through a dealer for a flat fee. I’m sure others on here can speak to that.
Good luck which ever way you go. I love my Tiffin gasser - best gas coach I’ve ever owned!
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29.3% discount quoted on a 2020 Allegro Red 37BA.
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07-03-2019, 03:30 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club
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I bought a 2015 RED after the 2016s were already out and got a pretty good deal, so 8 months later I tried the same thing with a 2016 Phaeton that had been sitting on the lot for almost a year. Thought I got a really good deal until I tired to drive it away and it would only go 40 mph. That's when I learned about "lot rot". It spent the next two months in a repair center. I actually talked to Bob Tiffin about it and he said that when he hears about somebody buying one like that he tells them to drive it straight to Red Bay because it's going to need a lot of work.
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07-04-2019, 12:24 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2019
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Nervous-about to pull the trigger.
I am about to be a newby. Got a quote for a new 2019 Tiffin Phaeton 37BH all-electric for $244K Plus TT&L. Does that sound OK to you. Been shopping and that is the best price I can find. MSRP is $340K.
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07-04-2019, 01:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ggraves427
I am about to be a newby. Got a quote for a new 2019 Tiffin Phaeton 37BH all-electric for $244K Plus TT&L. Does that sound OK to you. Been shopping and that is the best price I can find. MSRP is $340K.
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That is 28.3%, near the high end of the suggested 25-30% off. Just out of curiosity, what dealer was that (Ingram??). That % number if very familiar.
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2020 Tiffin Allegro Red 37BA
2020 Ford F150 XLT 4x4 Air Force 1 braking system
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07-05-2019, 05:56 AM
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Tiffin Owners Club
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When I priced my new Bus Marlin Ingram, Sherman, and Davis were the lowest and within $100 of each other.
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