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08-29-2010, 06:46 AM
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External Satelite Dish set up
Help!! I recently purchased a 2005 Phaeton 38 and cant figure out the TV antenna inputs. I’m good on Standard antenna, internal satellite, & Cable; however I can’t get the external satellite dish to work. I traced the wires from the external cable in coax jack located in the electrical compartment to a splitter that goes to (1) the “cable in” jack on the switch box and (2) the cable that is factory marked external Tri Pod cable. When connecting the Tri Pod cable connection to my Direct TV box antenna in and the external dish to the external coax connection I get nothing. In previous coached I have always had a discrete wire for the external satellite not using a splitter as in my Phaeton. Any thoughts and/or suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Jef
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08-29-2010, 07:09 AM
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The satellite antenna coax into the RV does not go to the cable input. The problem with that input is that it goes to a splitter and roof antenna amplifier board. The satellite receiver puts voltage out to the antenna dish and the voltage can not get through the splitter/amplifier. If you do not already have a coax input labeled for the satellite on the outside of the RV, you can either put one in or run the coax from the receiver to antenna through a window. To test that this is the problem, run the coax through the door directly from antenna to receiver input.
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08-29-2010, 11:34 AM
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I agree with EDJ the cable you traced is the park cable input, NOT the external sat-antenna in, Usually there is no such (though many re-route the park cable)
Do this.
For each LNB input you have (If you have a single receiver you have one, two receivers or a DVR you have 2) get a cheap Antenna switch, if you pay more than 10 bucks you are paying to much rca vh71 Switch is an example of this kind of switch (Not I found that with a Google search, No recommendation for the vendor, just the switch)
You will also need a short RG-6 jumper and a longer length of RG-6 (Can not say how long just yet)
Unhook the coax from the LNB-in on the receiver(s) and hook it to the "A" (As in Above) port on the switch, Hook the single "common" port via short jumper back to the Receiver LNB in.
ON the "B" port hook a brand new RG-6 cable you run to either a basement or bulkhead connecter down B-elow.
That's your ground mount sat antenna input.
To use.. Hook up antenna, switch switch(es) to B If direcTV reset receiver and point, If Dish point and check switch
To switch back to roof, Switch to "A" before you unhook, soon as you are in the clear reset a Direc or run check switch on a DISH.
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09-02-2010, 12:06 PM
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Location: Chino Valley AZ
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External Sat Dish
Thanks for the replies. FYI, the external cable input was wired as described; I solved the issue by removing the standard type splitter and installing a splitter that has a power bypass. This may be called a diplexer just something I happen to have in my toolbox. Now from my single external Cable input I can use cable or my external tri pod type dish. The splitter type devise (with power bypass) allows for the voltage to go from the satellite receiver box to the dish.
Thanks,
Jeff
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09-02-2010, 12:50 PM
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I have a 2006 Phaeton built in 2005. I actually bought it in August 2005. I would think it's wire the same as yours. I have two external coax connections in the power bay, one marked cable and the other tripod. I connected my external dish to the tripod connector and it worked just fine with no modifications.
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09-02-2010, 01:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeT
I have a 2006 Phaeton built in 2005. I actually bought it in August 2005. I would think it's wire the same as yours. I have two external coax connections in the power bay, one marked cable and the other tripod. I connected my external dish to the tripod connector and it worked just fine with no modifications.
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Interesting that the coax connector is labeled "tripod". All I have ever seen are labeled 'cable' and the second, 'satellite'. Was this second coax input put in by the manufacturer or somebody else later on?
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09-03-2010, 07:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edj
Interesting that the coax connector is labeled "tripod". All I have ever seen are labeled 'cable' and the second, 'satellite'. Was this second coax input put in by the manufacturer or somebody else later on?
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Manufacturer.
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09-03-2010, 12:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeT
I have a 2006 Phaeton built in 2005. I actually bought it in August 2005. I would think it's wire the same as yours. I have two external coax connections in the power bay, one marked cable and the other tripod. I connected my external dish to the tripod connector and it worked just fine with no modifications.
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I think Tiffin figured out they had a problem and either eliminated the splitter or switched to one with a power pass-through. I seem to remember a writeup in the Tiffin magazine Roughing it Smoothly in the tech tips section in the back. Either that, or someone over on Tiffin RV Network mentioned Tiffin corrected the problem with the splitter.
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09-03-2010, 12:47 PM
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External Sat Dish
To all,
No doubt that this was a factory installation and that the use of a standard splitter is in error. The typical installation is as Joe T mentioned, separate inputs for external cable and satellite. I have an early 2005 possibly this was corrected in later units. Bottom line is problem solved, thanks for everyone’s input, off to the next challenge.
Thanks again,
Jeff (ktmone)
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09-09-2010, 08:17 AM
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Great advices guys. It's good to hear that the problem was solved.
Thank you for all info.
Btw, I'm new at satellite topic and just learning about this stuff. RV topic is new for me as well, when I googled " 2005 Phaeton"
(2005 Volkswagen Phaeton)
But after that I think one more time, and figured out what you're talking about the RV.
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09-09-2010, 10:40 AM
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09-10-2010, 12:08 PM
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