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Old 09-27-2022, 05:46 PM   #1
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Flexsteel furniture delaminating!!!!!

I have a 2013 Open Road and the captain Click image for larger version

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ID:	377469seats, sofa and recliner material are all delaminating to various degrees. This is a motorhome with 30,000 miles and although 10 years old it has not been used a lot. I have read some discussions on this topic and have realized this is the same issue with many motorhomes.
I was hoping that people would chime in and give me ideas on how I can repair this without breaking the bank!
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On our 2013 34 ft Red I removed the front seats and took them to a auto trim shop to have the seats recovered, kind of expensive. Also ahd another trim shop make vinal covers for the arms of the couch, and made new cushion covers, the rest of the couch was fine. then sold that rig and bought a Bus. Probably should have cut the for sale price some and saved money, but the seats just look too bad. We had over 3 grand in the repairs. So your going to end up spending some money too if you want that stuff to look good again.
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Old 09-28-2022, 05:38 AM   #3
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Reupholster or replace with new. I don't know of any inexpensive solutions that will work for long. They make slip covers for captain's chairs, but they look pretty crappy in my opinion.

Our rig is 10 years old and has suffered from the same fake leather problems. About a year ago, we started by having the captain's chairs reupholstered at a local shop. A few months ago, we had the dinette cushions recovered in the same vinyl as the captain's chairs. And, in October, our new couch should be ready for installation. It wasn't cheap, but in our opinion, the interior of our Bay Star will be more attractive then the original fake brown leather. And, if we change rigs in the future, it will have an updated interior and may sell a bit easier.
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If the cushions are new, all you really need is to have the surfaces replaced. There are a lot of shops that do this work around Elkhart. We had one done at a place in Decatur last year and you can't tell the difference between it and the other seats around it. If you want something fast and cheap, you can buy some slip covers. You might also check with the RV salvage yards to see if they have something would work. You can probably get some nice leather seats to replace what you have that might not be too much money.
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Old 09-28-2022, 07:43 AM   #5
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I had the dinette recovered at a locally upholstery shop. Tiffin can get new, ready to fit covers for your captain chairs. They are cut ready to fit to put on after removing the old covers. We recovered them ourselves. Took the chairs out of the RV and did it at home. You will need to get hog rings and hog ring pliers. It does take a good amount of effort to stretch the new cover on.

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Old 09-28-2022, 11:12 AM   #6
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Our 2015 32SA is starting to have the same problem. We bought the RV around a year ago and there were no signs of cracking. I hoped we got a good one. In the last 3 months the captains chairs and sofa are getting bad, quickly.
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OP,
There is a lady in Dubuque, Iowa that has taken over from Flexsteel and she has all the patterns for their seats. Uses better material too and is very reasonable on pricing.
Putting her covers on yourself is no big deal. Youtube is your friend.
I did.

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I see the name “Flexsteel” come up all the time as the main complaint but this exact problem has existed for years (before 2008) and is not only in the Motorhome industry. Nearly every auto manufacturer has dealt with this on every model they produce once the demand for leather interiors shot through the roof. We had a brand new 2008 Yukon XL that started shedding the bonded layer within 18 months and they tried to blame it on us wearing jeans too often! LoL

The ridiculously expensive LazyBoy recliner I’m sitting in now as the exact same problem and is only 4 years old and the areas that are delaminating are areas that aren’t sat on or touched, but bend every time that it’s sat on each day. The only leather seats that didn’t do this were in my 2006 Ford F-250 King Ranch because they were full-grain leather back then, but also had a crazy amount of cleaning & conditioning required to keep them from looking totally gross!

There’s a few videos on YouTube that address the owners replacing the material but for the price charged it’s better to go to RedBay, Elkhart or other location where there are Motorhome suppliers & shops to buy the whole seat. One of the videos swapped out nearly all the furniture in the 4yr old coach and the front seats were about $1800 each but were brand new, much nicer looking and more comfortable. You can have the seats recovered with real leather center sections and pleather sides but your still going to have a lot more work to deal with the real leather areas.

In our Phaeton, we only have one spot in the center bottom seat on the passenger seat that has a 2” ugly spot and our seats are decently comfortable but are a bit too “Poofy” and I feel like a 3yr old sitting in one of those “Big-Man” recliners at a furniture store.

What’s the name of the “Lady in Iowa” that handles the FlexSteel now?
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I see the name “Flexsteel” come up all the time as the main complaint but this exact problem has existed for years (before 2008) and is not only in the Motorhome industry. Nearly every auto manufacturer has dealt with this on every model they produce once the demand for leather interiors shot through the roof. We had a brand new 2008 Yukon XL that started shedding the bonded layer within 18 months and they tried to blame it on us wearing jeans too often! LoL

The ridiculously expensive LazyBoy recliner I’m sitting in now as the exact same problem and is only 4 years old and the areas that are delaminating are areas that aren’t sat on or touched, but bend every time that it’s sat on each day. The only leather seats that didn’t do this were in my 2006 Ford F-250 King Ranch because they were full-grain leather back then, but also had a crazy amount of cleaning & conditioning required to keep them from looking totally gross!

There’s a few videos on YouTube that address the owners replacing the material but for the price charged it’s better to go to RedBay, Elkhart or other location where there are Motorhome suppliers & shops to buy the whole seat. One of the videos swapped out nearly all the furniture in the 4yr old coach and the front seats were about $1800 each but were brand new, much nicer looking and more comfortable. You can have the seats recovered with real leather center sections and pleather sides but your still going to have a lot more work to deal with the real leather areas.

In our Phaeton, we only have one spot in the center bottom seat on the passenger seat that has a 2” ugly spot and our seats are decently comfortable but are a bit too “Poofy” and I feel like a 3yr old sitting in one of those “Big-Man” recliners at a furniture store.

What’s the name of the “Lady in Iowa” that handles the FlexSteel now?
https://bauerrvupholstery.com/

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Have not experienced the problem, but have had the issue of cushions not being firm enough to support the back side after several hours.

The you-tube channel "You, Me, and the RV" has posted video on their Red upodate. They purchased replacement Captain's chairs and a dinette from "The Bunkhouse". So, there is another option.

We had the foam replaced on a set of dinette cushions. Big improvement. Highly advised.

Sympathy for the degradation problem.
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Yup, DRM's got it right.
Lisa Bauer in Dubuque, Iowa is the lady and she bailed me out big time with a set of new covers for our old Jayco Seneca 33ss.
The seat covers were beautiful, and went on easily, after a few Youtube primers. She even sent me a few sample patches to choose from prior to ordering.

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technomadia RV has a very good write-up on Flex-Steel and the poor quality "halo-leather" used, and their subsequent re-covering.

https://www.technomadia.com/2021/12/...oleather-fail/
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I had Lisa Bauer and her crew recover my couch in June. Called from the road and spoke to them about recovering since we were passing through the area. We decided to change the color a bit since we had already replaced the peeling recliner, made by a different company. Her son Mason sent out some color samples to a campground we were scheduled to stop at for a few days in South Dakota. We chose the color and let them know so they could start making the covers. They had the covers ready when we arrived and they removed the couch, recovered and re-installed in just over three hours. Beautiful job.

FYI, this wasn’t a Flexsteel problem. It was a coach manufacturer problem. Tiffin, and other manufacturers, specified the material and in some cases actually shipped the material to Flexsteel for furniture fabrication. This is probably why our recliner did the same thing, even though it wasn’t made by Flexsteel. We learned a lot when we were there. They also have 50 amp service so you can stay there until the furniture is completed. If you have front captains and passenger seats with built in seatbelts, I wouldn’t trust anyone but Bauer’s to recover.
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Tiffin gave us new material since I waited past a year. $1200 to have all recovered. I paid installation
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