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Old 12-31-2021, 04:12 PM   #1
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Thinking about upgrading headlight bulbs in my 2017 Red 33AA. Has anyone done this and was there a LED upgrade that made a significant improvement? I have only seen 1 YouTube video talking about this upgrade and not a lot of info there, unfortunately.
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I have an Allegro Bus 2018. I had my headlight and fog lamp bulbs replaced with LEDs in Red Bay. The cost was around $200. The bulbs did improve visibility both ahead and to the sides. I think that the upgrade was worth it. Since you apparently live in Oregon, I doubt that you want to make the trip to Red Bay, but I think that he would be willing to sell the appropriate bulbs with instructions. Let me know if you want the information and I will try to find his number.
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An alternate "significant improvement" is to install relays to assure the existing lights receive a full 12 volts. Many motorhomes route headlight power through lots of different areas resulting in significant voltage drop to the headlights.

https://www.americanautowire.com/sho...ncer-relay-kit

https://www.danielsternlighting.com/...ys/relays.html

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Old 01-01-2022, 08:43 AM   #4
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Thinking about upgrading headlight bulbs in my 2017 Red 33AA. Has anyone done this and was there a LED upgrade that made a significant improvement? I have only seen 1 YouTube video talking about this upgrade and not a lot of info there, unfortunately.
Ironically I was just about to post similar questions since I've been thinking about doing the same thing for my 2016 Phaeton 44OH. Though I'm not sure exactly what's involved (i.e. just changing out the bulbs or the need to change the housing) but was uncertain of the parts I need to accomplish it. I doubt this is a difficult thing to do but wondering if anyone has done it themselves on a Tiffin similar to mine that might be able to share the parts and the process they did.
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Presently making changes to my pick up lights. Lots of information here. Explains why you can get nasty glare when installing led in a reflector style housing.

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Great observation. Thanks.

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An alternate "significant improvement" is to install relays to assure the existing lights receive a full 12 volts. Many motorhomes route headlight power through lots of different areas resulting in significant voltage drop to the headlights.

https://www.americanautowire.com/sho...ncer-relay-kit

https://www.danielsternlighting.com/...ys/relays.html
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Presently making changes to my pick up lights. Lots of information here. Explains why you can get nasty glare when installing led in a reflector style housing.

Thanks lots of information. Though I was aware of some of the pitfuls of today's LED headlight "bulbs" never realized there were so many out there and the different types and the impact of the type of lighting it produces. Now I'm hoping someone can tell me what they might've used successfully in their MH.
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I updated my 2008 Phaeton with LEDs back a little over a year ago. Yes you can make sure you have the correct voltage but I also wanted a whiter color that the LEDs offer compared to halogen. I opted to purchase through Headlight Revolution hoping to get something that mimicked the halogen bulb filament without a scattered light that was bright but not focused. If you go a similar route, the bulb will have a way to adjust how it fits in the headlight housing. I ended up with a pretty decent cutoff and never had oncoming traffic flashing their lights at me.



Tried some of the cheaper bulbs years ago in a motorcycle. They were bright, but did not utilize the reflector in the headlamp properly and ended up with something worse than the standard halogen.
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I've used LEDs in my cars and recently went back to halogens (one of the LEDs died). With enough tinkering you can probably get LEDs to work better, however, I found the high-end halogens like Sylvania Ultras or Philps X-treme Vision are about 85% of what I got from LEDs without the hassles.

Often, when you put in LEDs you have to add resistors or make other changes to get them to play well with the electronics in vehicles.

Mastertech has a couple of videos on YouTube that explain some of the pitfalls of adding LEDs to an RV.
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An alternate "significant improvement" is to install relays to assure the existing lights receive a full 12 volts. Many motorhomes route headlight power through lots of different areas resulting in significant voltage drop to the headlights.

https://www.americanautowire.com/sho...ncer-relay-kit

https://www.danielsternlighting.com/...ys/relays.html
I made this mod to my 2003 Beaver and it made a huge improvement.
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Thanks all, for your comments. Really gives me some things to think about before I go further.
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I was not aware until recently that for most there are FOUR levels/grades of bulbs, for one of mine, price varied from $15 to $38 EACH in HALOGEN; higher $$= Brighter; Your Options/ mileage may vary. Good Luck
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Successful replacement of headlights

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Thinking about upgrading headlight bulbs in my 2017 Red 33AA. Has anyone done this and was there a LED upgrade that made a significant improvement? I have only seen 1 YouTube video talking about this upgrade and not a lot of info there, unfortunately.
I replaced my old stock bulbs with these from Amazon

They include drivers to give the bulb the correct voltage. I wanted to go to RED bay to get replacement bulbs/reflectors, but couldn't make it work.

I was hesitant to make this change, having read all the problems about just replacing the bulbs. however, the improvement is without a doubt worth the money.

Before the change, driving at night was like having candles for headlights. Now, I don't fear driving my rig at night. (I actually love getting up super early, making a cup of coffee, and getting 200 miles down the road while the wife is still sleeping, when we overnight at a roadside park. Totally a new experience for us.)
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We have a 2011 Tiffin Allegro Breeze. In addition to properly aiming the headlights, we installed LED driving lamps. The original low beam projector type bulbs by themselves are inadequate for driving a large vehicle at night. On this subject, I believe it was a major mistake for auto, truck, and bus makers to migrate away from the original glass sealed beam headlamps which worked so reliably over the years. These lamps also did not generate the annoying glare which causes one to divert his/her eyes.
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