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05-24-2016, 10:59 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Renton, WA
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Just bought a 2016 Tiffin Allegro 36LA and have a couple questions
Hi Everyone!
My wife and I just bought a 2016 Tiffin Allegro 36LA and I have a couple questions. The RV is in getting the PDI done and we're being asked about "options" such as wheel and tire insurance, windshield insurance, etc.
Which of these are things we should consider? The wheel/tire insurance is about $1000 and the windshield protection/insurance is $1100. Our State Farm insurance will cover the windshield for chips, cracks and replacement so is there any need to get this extra coverage?
On the tire/wheel insurance, I understand the tires/wheels are costly, but I've never had a problem with a car losing a wheel or damaging a tire from road hazards and tend to be a careful driver avoiding nasty problems in the roads. How often do people have blowouts and/or wheel damage? Is it worth the money for this?
This is our first RV and we were originally thinking of a Fleetwood 35K Bounder and decided after reading these and other forums as well as looking at the build quality of both that the Tiffin was a superior choice.
Thanks for the help, and all of the other help on the forums.
Rick
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05-24-2016, 11:10 PM
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Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: When we stop!
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Windshield no you say it is covered. Wheels tires the MH carries more weight than the car I would check price of replacement tires and wheels and start my thoughts on that.
Enjoy the new MH
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Getting ready to hit the road, But still getting answers. So thanks for the help! 2006 Winnebago Sightseer 29R Ford F53. Roadmaster Eagle 8000. 2001 Ford F150 7700 4x4. Still shopping for toad brakes. FMCA F286179
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05-25-2016, 12:03 AM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: SoCal
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The dealer is looking to sell these options to you? They are huge margins for dealers so they push them.
Your insurance, similar to automobile, provides its coverage.
As for any extended or additional warranty, it's up to you. Some folks buy them and some don't. Many threads here findable with the search feature. New coach warranty provides coverage, so usually is considered at the time the manufacturer's warranty ends.
You do need a ERS (emergency road service) to covering towing and handling tire repairs, should they be needed. Coach-net and Good Sam are the two most popular. About $100 a year. Find their web sites and compare coverages and buy there directly.
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2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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05-25-2016, 01:17 AM
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Junior Member
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This is a huge money maker for the dealer; IF you decide that you want the extra piece of mind with extended warranties then shop for after market policies. Don't forget about the Ford chassis warranty as well; they cover a multitude of issues for the first 5 years/60k miles. We love our 36LA, I'm sure you will too!
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05-25-2016, 05:29 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Renton, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vsheetz
The dealer is looking to sell these options to you? They are huge margins for dealers so they push them.
Your insurance, similar to automobile, provides its coverage.
As for any extended or additional warranty, it's up to you. Some folks buy them and some don't. Many threads here findable with the search feature. New coach warranty provides coverage, so usually is considered at the time the manufacturer's warranty ends.
You do need a ERS (emergency road service) to covering towing and handling tire repairs, should they be needed. Coach-net and Good Sam are the two most popular. About $100 a year. Find their web sites and compare coverages and buy there directly.
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Yes the dealer is trying to sell us these. Towing at least is covered by State Farm but I'll look into the Good Sam option. Thanks for the suggestion.
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05-25-2016, 05:45 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
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We have owned 3 Class A diesel pushers, the last one being a 2005 Allegro Bus we bought new. The Tiffin products are excellent, however, like most RV's it may take a while to get this "house with a engine" sorted out.
I would pass on the windshield AND the tire/wheel warranty. Keep your tires aired up to the proper pressure and buy tire sun covers and you'll be good for many thousands of safe and trouble free miles.
Our Pusher tires, when I replaced them in 2011, were $3,200 for 6 Michelin's.
Good luck, take your time, learn about MH's and your's in particular and you're in for a great time.
PS- feel free to send me PM's if I can help you in any way!
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05-25-2016, 06:45 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Pittsburgh PA
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36LA questions
Forget any insurances through your dealer. You don't need windshield insurance . Your policy with your insurance carrier should take care of it and if it doesn't, find a policy that does. If you want an extended warranty look at Wholesale Warranty. We have used them and have a 7yr plan at less than 1/2 the dealer price.
As far as tires, and wheels it doesn't pay to get the insurance. Do what the others have said and cover the tires and drive with care. Make a "repair" or "maintenance" account and at least you won't become a victim of insurance "fine print". We also have a 36LA. Good luck!
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05-25-2016, 07:00 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2012
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If the windshield insurance is zero deductible and your planning a trip to Alaska then that might be worth it. Otherwise your regular insurance, and deductible, should cover that.
A new tire will cost in the vicinity of $500 so you would need to replace two tires during the contract period. This would be highly unlikely if you maintain proper tire inflation.
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2014 Tiffin Phaeton 42 LH, 2013 Honda CRV
"When the time comes to look back, make sure you'll like what you see"
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05-25-2016, 08:56 AM
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Senior Member
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Sep 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RickSusan
Which of these are things we should consider?
Rick
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 Agree with everyone else on the insurance for tires & windshield, mostly a money maker for the dealership.
For the first year Tiffin should provide roadside assistance. We went with Good Sams, it covers all your vehicles. Its good service, we had to use it a couple of times on our other vehicles.
 You're really going to love the 36LA. For us, the floor plan was the best by far and the most usable. We didn't see another MH, gas or DP that we liked better.
 Mr. Tiffin was very thoughtful in his design of this one  During our first few trips it seemed we had a pleasant surprise each time discovering some nice feature.
Did you get the Sumo option? Sumos, Safe-T-Plus and a 5 Star Tune really tamed the F53 & made it a pleasure to drive. Your 6 speed transmission will be great, wish ours had it.
Happy camping, enjoy that great MH!
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2018 Isata-3 24FW sold
2015 Tiffin Allegro 36LA sold
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05-25-2016, 09:04 AM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: The Ozarks
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RickSusan
Yes the dealer is trying to sell us these. Towing at least is covered by State Farm but I'll look into the Good Sam option. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Which dealer are you dealing with ?
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Summers in the Ozarks-Winters in the Keys
Allegro Bus 36QSP
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05-25-2016, 09:46 AM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Las Cruces, NM
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Anything the dealer is trying to sell you at this point (extra insurance, paint protection, upholstery protection, etc.) is just to enhance his profit. Your response to any offer at this point is "No Thank You".
BTW, Tiffin gives you one year of emergency road service through CoachNet so you really don't even need to buy that for a while.
So save your money and buy a good sewer hose, water hose, and other stuff you really need.
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2017 Winnebago Navion 24V (Sold)
2014 Tiffin Phaeton 36GH (Sold)
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05-25-2016, 10:43 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Renton, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caswelld
 Agree with everyone else on the insurance for tires & windshield, mostly a money maker for the dealership.
For the first year Tiffin should provide roadside assistance. We went with Good Sams, it covers all your vehicles. Its good service, we had to use it a couple of times on our other vehicles.
 You're really going to love the 36LA. For us, the floor plan was the best by far and the most usable. We didn't see another MH, gas or DP that we liked better.
 Mr. Tiffin was very thoughtful in his design of this one  During our first few trips it seemed we had a pleasant surprise each time discovering some nice feature.
Did you get the Sumo option? Sumos, Safe-T-Plus and a 5 Star Tune really tamed the F53 & made it a pleasure to drive. Your 6 speed transmission will be great, wish ours had it.
Happy camping, enjoy that great MH!
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Yes, the RV had the Sumos on it already. I think the 2016 still has the 5 speed transmission. Should we look into the 5 star tune? What does that do?
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05-25-2016, 10:44 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Renton, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skypilot_1
Which dealer are you dealing with ?
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Poulsbo RV in Mt. Vernon (we live in Issaquah if you know the area).
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05-26-2016, 08:46 AM
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Senior Member
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 309
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RickSusan
Yes, the RV had the Sumos on it already. I think the 2016 still has the 5 speed transmission. Should we look into the 5 star tune? What does that do?
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 go to "5startuning.com" and see what they have
5 Star Tune reprograms your computer to smooth out the shift patterns. Right now your 5 speed transmission will often shift so RPM goes from a comfortable 2200 RPM (about 65 MPH) to near 4000 RPM just to go over an overpass on the interstate  That's the look you'll get from the right seat!
5 Star reprograms the set points so it unlocks the torque converter earlier, then shifts to lower gears if needed.  I was unhappy with my V10 before I did the 5 Star Tune.
It's easy to install, just find the plug near the steering column & follow the directions that come with the kit.
I think it was last month Motor Home Magazine published test results of 5 Star on the Triton V10 with the horse power and torque increases. Good article.
Call 5 Star, you'll talk to some one who knows all about your V10.  They're great guys & will answer any questions.
It does not affect your Ford warranty. 5 Star recommends you just replace the old factory program if you have to take the MH to Ford for work.
Do a search on IRV2 for 5 Star & read what people have to say, overwhelming postive feedback
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2018 Isata-3 24FW sold
2015 Tiffin Allegro 36LA sold
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