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Old 06-17-2022, 09:00 AM   #1
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KONI Shocks Advice

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Appreciate feedback on KONI shocks helping improve handling in crosswinds or passing trucks as well as providing a smoother ride across the many great roads in the USA.

Steering is very loose, feels like the rig is floating - especially on windy days or when trucks pass. Constant two hands on the wheel working back and forth to keep steady.

Is there another solution?

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Alignment, correct tire inflation, Roadmaster Reflex Steering Stabilizer or the Safe-T-Plus Steering Stabilizer, ...... slow down in high wind conditions as the different wind forces from changing directions has more or less impact.

IMHO, the Konis are a great upgrade, but folks have differing opinions based on their experiences. Slowing down will save fuel and reduce the impact of rough roads.

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Alignment, correct tire inflation, Roadmaster Reflex Steering Stabilizer or the Safe-T-Plus Steering Stabilizer, ...... slow down in high wind conditions as the different wind forces from changing directions has more or less impact.

IMHO, the Konis are a great upgrade, but folks have differing opinions based on their experiences. Slowing down will save fuel and reduce the impact of rough roads.

Research the forums. Watch the videos. Build a plan for your budget.
+1 on everything PKI stated except I don't have any experience with the Roadmaster Reflex or Koni shocks. Safe-T-Plus is an awesome upgrade and I have installed it on our last few motorhomes. It will control steering wheel wander to some extent but I suspect it will really shine in the event of a front tire blow-out. I can feel its action when riding through a construction zone with pretty severe ruts right in the wheel path.

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Old 06-17-2022, 05:11 PM   #4
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I got both the Safe T Plus and Koni shocks. In my opinion, I noticed very little difference in ride from the shocks. However, as for the Safe T Plus, I would do it a 1000 times over. Very noticeable difference. Not that I drive with one hand or even one finger, but I could in steady state conditions if I want to. I had mine done in Tallapoosa. They did the alignment first. Veterans get a discount.
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Old 06-18-2022, 06:30 AM   #5
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It's crazy how different our opinions can be and I think that explains how different coach's can ride down the road. We have a 14 bus so we were fine with the cross winds but the porpoising and rough roads we could really feel. We got the Koni's all around and it made a huge difference, for us. We also added the safety plus but only in case of a front tire blowout.

We had a front tire blow out after installation and although I've not had one without the safety plus thus can't compare the difference, I will never own a coach without one again. When our tire blew, 65 mph on the Florida turnpike, rush hour on a Friday, handling was not an issue at all. I was able to focus on safely slowing down and getting to the emergency lane.

It sounds like the answer to whether the Koni's will help you is maybe. If I had to guess it's going to be a combination of things, shocks, air pressure, alignment, etc.
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Old 06-18-2022, 02:23 PM   #6
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Scott ...do you know the model and Part number of the Koni shocks you put on? We would like to put them on our 14 Bus. I noticed there are 2 different models of te shocks one is adjustable?
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I had the same problem, rig moved a lot when passed by semi. Installed a rear track bar and that helped a bunch.
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Old 06-19-2022, 05:38 PM   #8
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Scott ...do you know the model and Part number of the Koni shocks you put on? We would like to put them on our 14 Bus. I noticed there are 2 different models of te shocks one is adjustable?
I'm sorry I don't know. The ones we went with were not adjustable.....now you have me questioning it. I wish I could help you and the rig is in the shop for the next several weeks.
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Old 06-19-2022, 09:07 PM   #9
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We had both Steer Safe and STP on our 3 Tiffins and at about half the price believe Steer Safe does a better job handling cross winds. Also, with STP when you get an alignment youíll have to readjust the STP but not Steer Safe. JMO.
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Track bar

Agree with HarryStone, i too went with the SuperSteer track bar, then shocks at a later time. Track bar was by far the greatest upgrade, sway is almost nonexistent and I'm not fighting the wheel to correct all the time.
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Old 06-21-2022, 07:21 PM   #11
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I just had Koni shocks installed on my 33AA by Hendersonís in Oregon along with a new Super Steer bell crank. They adjusted my Safety T Plus as well. Driving up I5 I was passed by several semi trucks and did not notice them passing. My coach handles better than ever. I had a loose steering ever since I bought the coach and just thought that was how it was supposed to be boy was I wrong. I am glad I the changes done.
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Old 06-21-2022, 08:03 PM   #12
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We bought our 2020 33AA last July. I drove it home to Texas from Wisconsin. It was hard to keep in its lane and I had to totally focus on driving it. When I got home I had it weighed and adjusted the tire pressures from 110 all around down to 100 fronts and 95 on the rear tires. I then had the front end alignment done at a shop that specializes in large trucks. The tech said it was way out of spec. The Safe-T-Plus had to be re-adjusted twice to get it to track straight. These changes made it a dream to drive. Just like a big SUV.

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Old 06-25-2022, 11:56 AM   #13
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On our 03 Phaeton I've replaced the shocks,(Bilsteins), Bellcrank(huge difference) stabilizer bar and bushings and added a Safe-t-plus. You can do all of these yourself and it makes driving a whole lot easier.
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We too experienced driving similar to what you describe in our 2014 QFA with 5500 miles on it when we purchased it. At first I thought we had made a terrible costly purchase. I took it to a truck alignment shop and an alignment made all the difference in driving. (The previous owner had installed Safe T Plus.). Take it to a truck/large vehicle front end shop, and they should be able to help you. A shop that works on busses and RV's only will also be helpful. Keep us posted on the outcome.
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