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08-28-2021, 12:40 PM
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Liquid springs for the F53 V8 228 inch wheel base chassis
Does anyone have information on Liquid spring applications on the new Ford F53 228 inch wheel base V8 chassis? Liquid spring web site does not show an application for 2020 forward on this chassis, but they do show an application for the earlier 2019 V10 chassis and the longer V8 chassis. Just brought home a 2022 Tiffin 32SA. No doubt roads are in bad shape today, but the ride is beyond rough on those roads. On smooth roads it rides very well. Any info would be greatly appreciated. I am going to have to do something to smooth out the ride.
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08-28-2021, 03:07 PM
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Best bet for accurate info is to contact Wayne Wells at Liquid Springs.
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08-28-2021, 03:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikervet
Has anyone looked into putting Liquid springs on the F53 V8 228 inch chassis which is a 32SA. Liquid spring has applications for longer new chassis and for the older V10 32SA chassis but not for the new V8. I just brought home a 2022 32SA and I am interested in smoothing the ride out. On smooth roads it is fine, but on the rougher, patched interstates it is bad. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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I had an email exchange with LS and they do have a solution for the 228" wheelbase... per Wayne Wells. He said their "application guide" that was online wasn't up to date.
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08-28-2021, 09:33 PM
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The cost for front and rear is a little over $20K, at least that was my quote about a month ago. I couldn't justify if for me so I just ride rough. Mine is a 2018 model and the rough ride is my only complaint.
Thanks,
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2024 Brinkley Z3100 5th Wheel, 20K Goosebox hitch
2023 RAM 3500 Diesel Dually
2018 Tiffin Allegro Open Road 32SA
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08-29-2021, 02:00 PM
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Adding Liquid Springs to a gas Class A chassis
This is a follow up to a previous post. It appears that my 2021 F53 chassis can have Liquid Springs added on. My question now is to anyone that has added them. It is quite an investment. Are they worth the money? Did they improve the ride and handling significantly?
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08-29-2021, 07:54 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club
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Location: Greeley CO. & Crystal Beach Fl.
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I'm surpised that there's not more conversation on this topic. I've watched videos and reviews. Something to consider, cost is around $20,000, not unreasonable considering the work and cost it involves. Some say it rides and handle better than a high end DP.
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Towing Mini Cooper / Chrysler Town & Country / Jeep
2019 Entegra Esteem , 2006 Fleetwood Excursion
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08-29-2021, 08:53 PM
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I believe all Tiffin F53 motorhomes are built on 228 inch wheel bases.
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08-29-2021, 09:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dssl
I believe all Tiffin F53 motorhomes are built on 228 inch wheel bases.
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The 32SA is built on the 228" wheelbase. All the other gas coaches are built on a 252" wheelbase.
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08-30-2021, 08:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tstyles
The 32SA is built on the 228" wheelbase. All the other gas coaches are built on a 252" wheelbase.
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I didn't realize that. Thanks.
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08-30-2021, 09:10 AM
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Tiffin Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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The one thing I haven't seen is specifics regarding chassis weight gain, whether as a retrofit or as part of a new chassis build. This applies to both rear axle only and full chassis Liquid Spring applications. Lots of 2nd hand conversation, but no specs, even if they were +/- numbers. My 2nd hand understanding is 600 - 700 lbs. for the rear axle only, and between 1000 - 1100 lbs. total for the full install (front and rear axles). I understand that on retrofits, it won't be the same for every install, but there should be real data out there for the new builds. Weight info is a critical element of a decision on this enhancement.
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2016 Tiffin Allegro Open Road 34PA
2018 Chevy Malibu
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08-30-2021, 09:17 AM
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LS Weigh info as provided to me by Wayne Wells at LS.
Bill
Weight added will be 260lbs to the front axle and 370lbs to the rear axle. Please let me know if you want any other information.
Thank you
Wayne Wells
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08-30-2021, 09:21 AM
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Fleetwood Owners Club
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Good info, didn't consider the added weight
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08-30-2021, 09:28 AM
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Tiffin Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by W.J. Demo
LS Weigh info as provided to me by Wayne Wells at LS.
Bill
Weight added will be 260lbs to the front axle and 370lbs to the rear axle. Please let me know if you want any other information.
Thank you
Wayne Wells
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That's a lot better than what I'd heard. That's a lot more palatable. Do they provide that info with inquires they receive?
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2016 Tiffin Allegro Open Road 34PA
2018 Chevy Malibu
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