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Old 01-25-2022, 08:19 PM   #1
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Looking for a Tiffin DP for around $125K

Hi. Been looking for a DP for awhile now and we think we have settled on the Make - Tiffin. We want a shorter RV around 32-34' and have a budget of $125K. Does limit some choices but still many options to look at. Does the older model Allegro REDs deserve high praise? Strong engine, trans and air ride system seems to make it a smart choice. Am I wrong? Thanks! [Mod Edit]
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Old 01-26-2022, 05:02 AM   #2
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Newmar Ventana had a couple 34xx layouts not sure if they still do but we love our 2013 V0TDP 3433. Cummins ISB 360 HP w Allison 3000 makes for a nice combo.
We looked at the REDs and didn't like some of the layout & features vs the VTDP.
You also get Comfort Drive w Newmar DPs that is a real plus I didn't even know about but really appreciate having owned one.
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Old 01-26-2022, 10:19 AM   #3
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Hi. Been looking for a DP for awhile now and we think we have settled on the Make - Tiffin. We want a shorter RV around 32-34' and have a budget of $125K. Does limit some choices but still many options to look at. Does the older model Allegro REDs deserve high praise? Strong engine, trans and air ride system seems to make it a smart choice. Am I wrong? Thanks! [Mod Edit]
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If you are locked in on Tiffin, and 32 - 34í, then you are looking at the Breeze model. Smaller, compact units, good for two people. In the pre 2021 years, I believe, they were underpowered IMO at 270 HP. Cummins quit making that engine. The smallest Red (33AA) is a tad over 35í in length. With the price range you are talking about, you would be looking at a unit with the Allison 2500 transmission and engine rated at 340 hp and 5000 pound towing ability. This will do the job. Newmar also makes a good product. If I was looking again, these would be my first two manufacturers on the used market.
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Old 01-27-2022, 11:59 AM   #4
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You are spot on and the Newmar Ventana 3433 is a beautiful coach! I saw one listed the other day and it looks beautiful and it seems it really retains its worth? Good news/bad news: Good: I think I am getting more and more aligned to the exact features/make MH I want. Bad: These desires keep driving up the costs! Ha. Thanks for your input!! I will keep looking!
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Old 01-27-2022, 12:02 PM   #5
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I found a 2013 RED 34QFA that is basically brand new and well taken care of. We really like it but the owner want full Retail asking price and does not want to drop. Approx $142K. Seems like a great coach but the price is making me hesitate. Thanks!!!
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I found a 2013 RED 34QFA that is basically brand new and well taken care of. We really like it but the owner want full Retail asking price and does not want to drop. Approx $142K. Seems like a great coach but the price is making me hesitate. Thanks!!!
Looking at RVTrader, there is only one unit listed to compare to this rig, and it is at $160K. However, condition plays a big part - not so much on mileage, for diesel engines. How good a condition are the tires, batteries and interior? Everything work? Does he / she have all the maintenance records so you can see what has been done, or needs to be done for maintenance. All of these can be detractors from the asking price. On the other hand, if this really rings your bell, and you comfortable with the overall condition and price, well ...
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Tis the season of high cost - do your research and purchase later. RV prices will come down. They are at an all time high right now. Patience is your key to finding a budget success.

In the interim - shop - learn the market and establish what is a good deal and what is a flip for profit or a punt to shed the payment on an unmaintained coach.

Learn what you need to meet the requirements of your RVing Lifestyle. That will help you narrow down the choices. Length, width, height, age, weight, engine, transmission (600 or 800 ftlbs torque), number of slides (0,2,3,4?), queen/king, IFS, Powerglide/Freightliner, emissions control, tankage, solar, battery type/size, and ................. Cost.

EDIT - You asked "Does the older model Allegro REDs deserve high praise? Strong engine, trans and air ride system seems to make it a smart choice." No, not a strong transmission - Allison 2500 is torque limited. Later models do, as they have the 3000 Allison. The RED is on a Freightliner chassis with a solid front axle - air ride yes, but IFS is better. What makes a smart choice is meeting your requirements for your budget and making the compromises that work for you.
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Old 02-01-2022, 04:01 PM   #8
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Exclamation Tiffin Breeze 28BR

The shortest Tiffin DP is also the shortest DP on the market. It is the Tiffin Breeze 28BR. It was only made from 2011 through 2015 and happens to sell for about $100K or less (maybe more this year due to inflated RV prices in general). The 28BR is a fantastic length and great layout.

There is a downside though. The power plant is an International Maxxforce 7, which is a controversial engine. Some mechanics hate working on it. I've had to replace the high-pressure-fuel-pump in my 2015 twice, and only once was covered under warrantee. This was extremely expensive. Some owners report that the less powerful 2011/2012 engine is more reliable.

We tow a Jeep and have pulled it up and down the steepest hills in the Sierra Nevada and Rocky mountain ranges, including California's Donner Pass, Naciemento-Furgerson Road, Tioga Pass, the Ancient Bristlecone Forest, and Colorado's Independence Pass, which larger RV as not permitted to drive over.

Other than my lack of confidence in the engine, I love my RV.
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Love it! I think I am now moving away from that engine and looking for RV's that have the Cummins engine at a higher HP and Torque. Mountains are a plenty out West and I also don't want to have any issues with that. Thanks for your input!!!
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Old 02-02-2022, 10:46 AM   #10
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Cummins 360 / Allison 3000

The Cummins 360 HP with Allison 3000 is a good combination in our 2020 Tiffin RED 33AA. We took it to Glacier NP last summer. It did well over the passes. I normally set cruise control at 63. Typically get 9 mpg towing a 4000 lb toad

Good luck in your search.

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Unless your home garage or barn is small, don't sell yourselves short.

At $125K I would go back a few years to a pre-def Phaeton or Allegro Bus. There was more quality and less electronic gizmos in those years, and the engines and transmissions were solid if cared for. You would be happier with more power, more tow capacity, more fuel capacity than in the RED and Breezes. The Allegro Bus (which we have) comes with a 150 gallon (1000 mile) fuel tank and IFS suspension. Don't worry about mileage or age if the rig has been maintained; or unless you are close enough to Red Bay to want to use it for all your repairs out to the 10 years cutoff.
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