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05-09-2023, 04:17 PM
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Monument Pass
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Originally Posted by colo.kids
Having just sold our 2016 Bus we are looking to "downsize" to a 2017 Allegro Open Road 32 SA. Living in Colorado we frequently travel over high mountain passes. My concern is can this coach handle a 5000 lb toad in such circumstances. I am thinking with this smaller coach the F-53 would potentially have more power in such pulls than say the 36 LA which obviously has greater weight.
Thanks in advance for any thoughts or experiences.
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I have 36LA and climbed Monument Pass towing a 4800 lb GMC Canyon. We had no problem.
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05-09-2023, 05:04 PM
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One of the few complaints I have with the 36LA is the screaming V-10 at 25 mph going up inclines. Not enjoyable in the least.
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05-09-2023, 06:10 PM
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Location: Redmond, Or.
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Been there, done that in our 29/9 32SA towing a 2 Dr JKS. Been over the continental divide many times and you are just going to chug up the pass at 25 - 30 mph with a screaming engine that you can’t hear yourself think over, much less have a conversation. Downhill, in tow haul, same same. Only vehicle I have ever had without a redline on the tach. And be sure to use “tow/haul” mode going Dow passes, otherwise brakes get eaten. After our last trip through Co, Mt, and Wy- we now own a DP.
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05-09-2023, 06:16 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by F4Gary
According to Motor Trend magazine, the 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk 4XE weighs 5524 lbs.
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I didn't think you could tow any of the electric hybrids in a 4 down configuration. All that battery weight might be what makes that thing so heavy.
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05-09-2023, 06:45 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: On the continental divide
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Russ,
Being in B.V. I pull an 8K# enclosed car hauler over Monarch Pass (11+K ft) with this. Past Monarch lodge we're in 1st gear @ 2800 RPM and chugging along @ 26 MPH. WE watch the chipmunks outrunning us, but she does it.
I just turn on the 2 pancake fans at the base and settle back for the run.
That 8.1 Chevy is bulletproof, especially thanks to the Ultra RV ECM / TCM mod's.
On a Pace Arrow, you MUST beef up the hitch. The OEM setup is a disgrace to any engineer with a modicum of common sense. I did mine like this.
Mike in Colorado
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2004 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37c, 8.1 gasser, (Jezebel) Ultra RV ECM / TCM, plugs wires, and rear track bar, PPE deep Tx pan w/ temp gage, Bilstein's, Sailun's & Sumo's all round, pushed by a 2002 Grand Caravan, on a Master Tow Dolly OR a WR-250 on a rail.
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05-09-2023, 06:51 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: On the continental divide
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OOppps,
The pictures
Mike
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2004 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37c, 8.1 gasser, (Jezebel) Ultra RV ECM / TCM, plugs wires, and rear track bar, PPE deep Tx pan w/ temp gage, Bilstein's, Sailun's & Sumo's all round, pushed by a 2002 Grand Caravan, on a Master Tow Dolly OR a WR-250 on a rail.
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05-10-2023, 06:08 AM
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Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Caledonia, MI
Posts: 49
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Eisenhower pass climb
We made a 6000 mile trip going all over out west. Several steep climbs and descents. We topped the (+/- 11,000’) Eisenhower pass at under 30mph. We were towing my 2019 Ford Ranger (which pulls awesome BTW). Loud, nervous climb, but now I wouldn’t hesitate to do it again if we wanted to. Our 36La is heavy, but the v10 is a capable beast. Keeping it on the mt when going downhill was a “stay focused” job. Use tow haul mode, but start your descent in lower gears. Keep your speed down and don’t try to catch up.
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2014 Tiffin Allegro 36LA Open Road
Mark & Karen Young
Caledonia, MI with our Drahthaar Belle and Dachshund Rosie
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05-10-2023, 10:28 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Boca Raton
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I would highly recommend sound/thermal insulation. On my previous 36LA I insulated the engine doghouse, underside of floor from the firewall back to the entrance door (covers the transmission), and the firewall using multiple layers of Stinger and Dynamat. I also wrapped the defrost ducts with the Dynamat.
Here is a link to a previous post:
https://www.irv2.com/forums/f106/201...ml#post5532483
It was a project but it made a huge difference. Most noticeable at cruising speed, wife and I could have a normal conversation and I could here the radio much better. The engine still screamed going up and down grades but it was much more tolerable.
Paul
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2021 Dutch Star 4369/Spartan K2 (7/2022)
2018 Allegro 36LA (5/2018)
2023 Ford Expedition 4WD; M&G 2.0/Blue Ox Avail
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05-10-2023, 10:30 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Denver, CO
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Similar to garykk, we had a 32’ Winnebago class A and a four door wrangler. The V10 always made it up the passes albeit a little slowly. You also have the option of disconnecting if there is a second driver.
Make sure your coach has the available GVWR and GCWR before doing anything.
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2022 Winnie Forza 36H
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05-19-2023, 12:46 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Golden, CO
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I again want to thank all those who have shared their expertise and their experiences. I love how helpful this forum is for such matters. It sure beats taking with salespersons!
Regards and best wishes to all, and safe travels.
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Russ and Anita
2016 Tiffin Allegro Bus 37AP SOLD
2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk 4XE (in tow...we hope)
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