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Old 09-27-2022, 06:38 PM   #1
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Phaeton 40 IH Corner Weights

Looking for anyone that has corner weights for that model.
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Only real way to do it is to weigh your coach. Someone else's coach will weigh differently than yours depending on what you and they have loaded at the time.

I find it difficult to get a 4 corner based on the scales that I've used. I alos find it "Good enough" to go with a front and rear weight and add 10% from there to get tire pressures.
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Using someone else's weights won't help you as they would never be accurate to you. I had mine weighed by wheel position when i purchased new tires by the tire dealer. He had scales but finding a 4 corner weight business is not easy.
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Old 09-29-2022, 08:52 PM   #4
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When I wanted a six point weight, (tag axle) I called the WI State Patrol. They came to my home with their scales. He set up me up in the middle of the street and gave me a six position weigh. I then adjusted the tag bag pressure and he did another one to confirm what I wanted. No charge and he was happy to help. I would bet any state would do it if you went to their location.
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Old 10-09-2022, 05:56 PM   #5
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Portable scales

The proper thing to do for any owner of a large MH IS TO WEIGH EACH INDIVIDUAL WHEEL.

If you use Cat scale or other you can weigh a front or rear axle, but once you do, how much of that load is on right front or left front. Same for rear axle.

Their are several ways to achieve individual wheel weight, locate on line one of the several Escapees Events they host to do this at different regions of the country, also a number of scale installation snd service companies use portable scales and some will rent them for a fee. Each portable scale weighs 60-80 pounds, you will drive MH up onto scale, decide before hand to fill your fuel tank, Def tank, propane tank, ect, to match what you will be taking on the road. You will quickly see a right to left difference,
I use a rule of 600Lbs, max from Rt. To Left as ok.
Then as far as front or rear, insure you are at or below the maximum allowable axle weight for each axle. Last of all, with your specific tire model and size information, go online to the tire manufacturers listed air pressure settings for the wheel weigh you have on single tire, (front), and a second setting for the rear
(Dual tires. Do this and you will be at the optimum for MH handling, ride, and tire safety.
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Last of all, with your specific tire model and size information, go online to the tire manufacturers listed air pressure settings for the wheel weigh you have on single tire, (front), and a second setting for the rear

(Dual tires. Do this and you will be at the optimum for MH handling, ride, and tire safety.

Actually, you'll have your tires inflated to the bare minimum pressure required to safely support the actual weight, not some optimum number. Lose 5 PSI and you've technically overloaded the tires because you always go down (or up) to the next load inflation chart number for weight.

You'll actually be running your tires at 100% of their design capacity because it's the air pressure that supports the weight. The rubber just contains the air.

The load chart itself has pretty much nothing to do with ride or handling considerations because the tire manufacturers have no way to know how or what their designs will be installed on.

Those characteristics are a function of the suspension, not the load-bearing capability of the tire that the inflation chart establishes. The ride and handling characteristics are the purview of the vehicle final manufacturer. That's why two vehicles using the identical tires and pressures can vary widely in their perceived handling and ride.

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I got the escapees to weigh my 19 40 IH in Bushnel , fl. Turns out tiffin really had my ride height screwed up. My left fron tire was at 1000 lbs. Way more that the right front. Finally got to red bay and they showed me how far off the ride height was corner to corner. Really improved my ride. Sad that it came out of the factory so far out of wack.
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Learn your rv?

Friends, when you obtain an MH or other RV, you are getting a new electrical system, batteries, chargers, Inverters, Transfer Switch, Generator in most cases, 12 VDC system, 120/240 VAC system, various hydraulic, or Electro/mechanical?-Slide outs, Hydraulic or similar leveling system, Electrical awnings, electrical moving steps, an air compressor system, propane gas stove, possible heat and hot water, and various other systems that YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND.

You should insure that you have owner/service manual for each of these systems and devices. Get model numbers, If you don't have manuals, get a flash light and take each system and your phone/ camera and take a photo of nameplate, sticker or any identifying data. Contact builder with your model, year, and Vin number, But to get the documents.

You may not be suited to perform any maintenance or repairs, but whoever does will need the manuals in most cases, types of oils, fluids, coolants, filters, ect. Are not all the same and you want what is specified or a suitable approved substitute.

On an on this goes, until you are on top of what you now own. Anything less is not good, so be not afraid, just go about this logically, and you should be ok.

PS: Narcissism Is flourishing, all social or open to anyone media such as this site allows any Tom, Dick and even Harry to chime in on any topic, ir regardless if they are not competent in repairing a flashlight , so take all this free advice with skepticism and try to seek several supporting long term members advice before taking any drastic costly steps.
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I got the escapees to weigh my 19 40 IH in Bushnel , fl. Turns out tiffin really had my ride height screwed up. My left fron tire was at 1000 lbs. Way more that the right front. Finally got to red bay and they showed me how far off the ride height was corner to corner. Really improved my ride. Sad that it came out of the factory so far out of wack.
I had a similar issue with our 2013 Bus. The ride height valves have a range of adjustment. They are pretty sensitive too. My left rear valve was set 1/4" out of correct, which caused the FR steer to be 8100# and the LF was 7200#. Tire rating was 7830#. I'm sure Tiffin didn't plan it that way, humans are known to error on occasion. They promptly paid to have it corrected.
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