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01-22-2023, 06:18 AM
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Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Baton Rouge, LA & Gulf Shores, AL
Posts: 97
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Possible changes in Red Bay
Just got back from Red Bay getting 43 of 46 items addressed on my Phaeton. Was there about 2 weeks. Waited ~5 work days before work started. Disappointed on a few items, but overall was satisfied. Techs and Tiffin employees were great as always.
In talking with Tiffin employees concerns are up. Changes continue to happen. I was told that the on site parts store by front office may be closed. The parts store is one of my favorite places to spend time in Red Bay. I spent ~$500 this trip getting spare parts for my new coach.
Was told that the employee were asked to vote on whether to close the customer lounge or the parts store. Announcement may be this Monday.
Been 2-3 years since I was last at Red Bay. Tours were happening at factory this trip, a lot of 5th wheels were being worked on (but none at campsites), no more sandwiches made at downtown Tiffin general store and the Rattlesnake Saloon is closed December & January (darn). I got there ~1/6 and Tiffin RV lot was ~50% occupied. When I left on 1/20 RV lot was ~20% occupied. Campgrounds around town had low occupancy too. A good time to get RV worked on.
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2022 Tiffin Phaeton 36SH & 2017 JKUHR
2021 Newmar 4369, 2017 Tiffin Red, 2005 HR Neptune
2014 Grand Cherokee, 2009 JK
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01-23-2023, 08:21 AM
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 85
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Closing the lounge OR closing the store seems a strange trade off.
I can understand closing the downtown lounge. The lady is very nice, but there are not a lot of people there.
Closing the lounge at the repair center seems counterproductive
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01-23-2023, 10:36 AM
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Junior Member
Tiffin Owners Club Georgie Boy Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Cherokee, NC (summer), Titusville, FL (winter)
Posts: 26
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We were in Red Bay about the same time (Jan 3-13) and agree it is a good time to get work done.
I wonder what lounge they are thinking of closing? The one at the end of the service bays is already 1/2 the size it was last year. They've put in offices on one side.
I was under the impression that the Allegro Club owned the downtown lounge. If that is the case maybe it is not a direct Tiffin decision. We were at the downtown lounge (now called the Tiffin General Store) for 4 days in the pet friendly side. Each day there were anywhere from 3-6 couples with their cats and dogs using that side and some in the main part as well.
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2022 Tiffin Allegro Open Road 34PA"DRAKKEN"
2004 MINI Cooper "TYNE"
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01-23-2023, 06:15 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: NY State
Posts: 2,189
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Whatever they do, I really, really hope they don't close the store! Both times we've been to Red Bay we spent probably $1K there each time, and actually saved a bunch of money in the long run on what we bought (some of it in advance of the need).
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1976 Southwind 28', '96 Winnie 34WK,
2006 Tiffin Allegro Bus 40QDP
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01-31-2023, 04:06 PM
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Member
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 90
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I was only a matter of time before Thor changed things and mucked up a great company.
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01-31-2023, 04:36 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 606
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kg6vvo
I was only a matter of time before Thor changed things and mucked up a great company.
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My thoughts exactly! While we have heard "nothing will change" with Thor's acquisition / merger (?) I have been awaiting the no change changes. Tiffin probably has to send Thor so much $$$ every month or quarter.
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01-31-2023, 05:36 PM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Steilacoom Washington
Posts: 196
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kg6vvo
I was only a matter of time before Thor changed things and mucked up a great company.
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I read about closing some of their manufacturing of trailers of some sort in Redbay , also layoffs coming if not already . Fewer techs to assist also when calling .
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01-31-2023, 08:56 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Titusville, FL
Posts: 448
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The word is out in Florida that the quality of Tiffin Motorhomes has plummeted. I've seen a couple of posts about quality issues with new coaches. They better turn it around quickly or their reputation will be toast.
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Jack and Janet 
2020 Allegro Open Road 32 SA
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01-31-2023, 09:16 PM
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Senior Member
Foretravel Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Home is Where WE PARK IT...
Posts: 5,651
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I Have a Brand New New New .. Mountain Aire..Parked Next Door.. After talking to the Owner, found that He has normally traded His Tiffin's in every 4 or 5 Years and is on a first name basis with Mr Tiffin...He said that after inspecting several coaches built since Thor took over the Tiffin manufacturing.. He inspected and bought the Newmar..
He went on to say that for now, it's just the little things that arn't up to snuff, but after owning so many, He can tell the differences of floor plans, components used and quality of build..sad me thinks
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Full Timing in a Foretravel?...Yup...and..... "It will do"
Escapees of Box Elder, South Dakota
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02-01-2023, 05:53 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 165
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We just left Red Bay and I was concerned about the changes too. Many of the independent techs that rely on people coming to Red Bay for work on Tiffins are worried also.Awhile back I was glad that Winnebago had bought Newmar, now I so wish they had bought Tiffin instead. Below is an article I wrote for RVtravel.com.
https://www.rvtravel.com/rv-industry...-tiffin-1089b/
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02-01-2023, 06:04 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Bryan, TX when not traveling.
Posts: 22,427
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You have to look at the past history of Thor acquisitions. They will buy a company with reasonable service and quality and in a matter of months turn down the quality of customer service and product quality control. Would you have really expected any difference with their acquisition of Tiffin?
Ken
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02-01-2023, 06:22 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: East Bethel, Minnesota
Posts: 180
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TXiceman
You have to look at the past history of Thor acquisitions. They will buy a company with reasonable service and quality and in a matter of months turn down the quality of customer service and product quality control. Would you have really expected any difference with their acquisition of Tiffin?
Ken
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Quality control was a problem long before Thor took over. Anyone that spent time at the repair facility prior to Thor certainly knows this.
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2019 Open Road 36UA
East Bethel, Minnesota
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02-01-2023, 06:53 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Three Oaks, Mi.
Posts: 240
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KenJr
Quality control was a problem long before Thor took over. Anyone that spent time at the repair facility prior to Thor certainly knows this.
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Have to completely agree with you. We had (past tense) a 2017 31BR Breeze. Nothing but constant repairs or improvements. Not sure when the downhill slide began, but it was definitely before THOR was involved. We had a THOR and heard the reviews of Tiffin. Only to find out that there wasn't much difference other than in the esthetics. Even cabinet construction was similar with the exception that Tiffin's face frames were better made.
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2022 DYNAMAX FORCE 34KD 2019 Jeep KL (Cherokee) TOAD
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02-01-2023, 07:35 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Sheboygan, WI
Posts: 5,547
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KenJr
Quality control was a problem long before Thor took over. Anyone that spent time at the repair facility prior to Thor certainly knows this.
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I agree as well. I've seen the Thor change at Airstream and Jayco and haven't seen any issues related to their purchases by Thor. On the other hand, Newmar's seem to be getting more quality issues as well but that too began prior to the Winnebago purchase. Management changes happen in any acquisition, as is the case with both Newmar and Tiffin, but any reductions in quality have started long before the companies were sold. Sadly, it's just happening in every manufacturer lately, although some are more extreme than others.
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2016 Cornerstone 45A
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