Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > THE OWNER'S CORNER FORUMS > Tiffin Owner's Forum
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 12-02-2016, 07:07 PM   #1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 4
Quality of ride/drive in different Tiffin models

I currently have a 2014 35 ft Tiffin Allegro RED. We travel appx 5-6 months out of the year so we are driving quite a bit. I'm considering upgrading to a Phaeton or Tiffin Bus but want to stay 36-38 ft length. I am actually very happy with our RED but I feel the wind and bumps or holes in the road quite a bit. I have 2 questions from other Tiffin drivers:

1. Is the ride significantly different (bette) when upgrading from a RED to a Phaeton or Bus?

2. For those who have driven the power glide chassis - is there a significant difference from that to the Freightliner?

Any feedback you can provide would be appreciated.
RivLbCA is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 12-02-2016, 07:13 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Elko, Nv
Posts: 2,258
We had a 2014 Red 38QRA and now have a Phaeton 36GH. Its not apples to apples because the Phaeton is shorter but it drives much nicer than the Red did.
NevadaNick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2016, 08:25 PM   #3
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 4
NevadaNick, Can you tell me what differences you notice with the drive? Do you notice a difference in re: to wind or passing semi's - ruts in the road, etc.?
RivLbCA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2016, 07:24 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Elko, Nv
Posts: 2,258
Its better in the wind than the Red was, potholes are same, the chair and the petals/steering wheel are nicer but a New Red might have the new controls as well. We have put 18k mi on it since Feb. The power of the ISL, the floorplan and the better furniture is why we went to the Phaeton. We looked at other brands as well but for the money this was the best way for us to go. Our Red was 40ft long so this one at 38ft just seems more nimble and handles everything better.
NevadaNick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2016, 08:28 AM   #5
Senior Member
 
Tiffin Owners Club
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Las Cruces, NM
Posts: 4,033
The Phaeton might ride a little better than a Red but the chassis are pretty much the same. The Phaeton will be quieter, however, due to the dual pane windows. The Bus is on a PowerGlide (Tiffin Built) chassis that has an independent front suspension. Active Air ride is an option on the Bus as well which will further smooth out the ride.

Tiffin has expanded the PowerGlide line and you will be able to order Phaetons on the PowerGlide chassis again - most likely within the next year.

Based on your want list, the Bus 37AP would be your best choice.
__________________
Roger & Mary
2017 Winnebago Navion 24V (Sold)
2014 Tiffin Phaeton 36GH (Sold)
luvlabs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2016, 07:05 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Elko, Nv
Posts: 2,258
Our Phaeton has a 24k rear axle and associated bags and i would imagine shocks. This probably has something to do with the dif in ride.
NevadaNick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2016, 11:22 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 184
If your only issue is the ride quality you **might** get an improvement if you get the HWH Active Air installed. It's basically the same air ride system that's used in the Bus (different manufacturer).

It costs $10K to install and takes about 1 week.

They will weigh the coach and won't install if it's overloaded.

You probably won't recover much of the 10K at resale, but if you intend to keep it for a long time that's not that big a deal.

You might be able to call HWH and discuss with them exactly what you want to improve to see if their system should help.
ekim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2016, 12:54 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
vsheetz's Avatar


 
Fleetwood Owners Club
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 15,749
Posting the question on the Tiffin owners forum woukd likely get several responses from folks that have upgrade experiences to share.
__________________
Vince and Susan
2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
vsheetz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2016, 11:03 PM   #9
Member
 
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by luvlabs View Post
The Phaeton might ride a little better than a Red but the chassis are pretty much the same. The Phaeton will be quieter, however, due to the dual pane windows. The Bus is on a PowerGlide (Tiffin Built) chassis that has an independent front suspension. Active Air ride is an option on the Bus as well which will further smooth out the ride.

Tiffin has expanded the PowerGlide line and you will be able to order Phaetons on the PowerGlide chassis again - most likely within the next year.

Based on your want list, the Bus 37AP would be your best choice.
I just ordered an Allegro Bus 40SP which has the Powerglide chassis. They didn't mention that Active Air was an option and I didn't see it on the option list or the brochure? Is it included as a standard option on the Bus but an option on the Phaetons maybe?
Rzani is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2016, 08:29 AM   #10
Member
 
skeet4me's Avatar
 
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 39
We had a freightliner tag before we bought our Bus with the powerglide. I absolutely love the independent front suspension. Our single axle bus drives better than my tag did.
__________________
Steve & Kathy
2016 Tiffin Allegro Bus 37AP
Flat towing a 2013 Ford F150 Super Crew
skeet4me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2016, 01:23 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
garykk's Avatar
 
Tiffin Owners Club
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Southern NM
Posts: 2,993
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rzani View Post
I just ordered an Allegro Bus 40SP which has the Powerglide chassis. They didn't mention that Active Air was an option and I didn't see it on the option list or the brochure? Is it included as a standard option on the Bus but an option on the Phaetons maybe?
A Part of the TiffinRVNetwork € Information

Look about 5 lines down from top.
__________________
2018 Allegro Bus 37AP
2014 Phaeton 40 QBH (sold)
2022 Jeep JLURD
garykk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2016, 11:32 PM   #12
Member
 
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by garykk View Post
A Part of the TiffinRVNetwork • Information

Look about 5 lines down from top.
"I am not authorized to download" whatever it is you were trying to show me. So, is it an option or included with the Powerglide? Anyone know?
Rzani is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2016, 08:18 PM   #13
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 4
Thanks everyone for your feedback and input. We actually did go ahead and purchase a 2017 Phaeton. I have to say that driving this vs our previous Allegro RED is like night and day. We are really very, very happy.
RivLbCA is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
quality, tiffin



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Different Newmar models jlckmj Newmar Owner's Forum 6 11-25-2016 06:42 PM
Different Models tmw188 Cummins Engines 1 11-23-2014 03:08 PM
4 different tire gauges, 3 different readings fun time MH-General Discussions & Problems 5 05-04-2011 09:34 AM
New Tires = different ride and handling supercub Workhorse and Chevrolet Chassis Motorhome Forum 4 05-28-2008 06:26 AM
New Tires = different ride and handling supercub Workhorse and Chevrolet Chassis Motorhome Forum 4 07-13-2007 06:22 AM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.