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Old 05-12-2021, 02:31 PM   #1
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RED 33AA ride vs. 40' Coach-have you driven both long and short?

We drove a 40' Fleetwood DP for 5 years and absolutely loved the smooth ride, it was like floating down the road. We're now looking at shorter DPs, specifically the RED 33AA. We thought that the better ride (we had a Tiffin Allegro gas prior to the Fleetwood) was due to the air suspension, but we've recently been made aware that the length of the coach makes a difference too. Can anyone who has driven both give us a comparison on the ride? Would we still float in a 33AA?



Of course, we'll be driving one to see for ourselves, but we live in MA, which is a DP desert. If common opinion says difference will be night and day, we'll look at longer coaches. If the consensus is that there's not a lot of difference, we'll make plans to travel and test drive something short.


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In 2016 we downsized from a 42' Winnebago Tour to a 34' Fleetwood gasser. After a year and a half and thousands of dollars attempting to make it safe and comfortable to travel in we test drove an Allegro Red 33AA and bought it the same day. I had a Safe T Plus installed that helped control sway from wind and passing trucks but did not completely eliminate it, the coach weighed and tire pressure adjusted which helped smooth out the ride. Does the 35' long 33AA ride as smooth and stable as the 42', no, but the lay out is perfect for us no white knuckles, and the drive is defiantly more comfortable than the gasser.
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Old 05-12-2021, 06:00 PM   #3
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I would suggest you look at Newmar Ventana, Ventana LE, or Kountry Star. We have a 2013 Ventana 3433 and with Comfort Drive it handles great. CD is hard to evaluate or appreciate on a test drive but after a long day drive I certainly appreciate the relaxed drive. Read the various posts in the Newmar section and put more faith in those that have it vs those pooh-poohing it as a gimmick. It is far from that IMO and others that have experienced it.
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Went from a 2018 34 ft Holiday Rambler gas to a 34 ft Tiffin RED, and thought we were driving a cloud compared to the gas powered rig. Noise and ride were so much nicer we were so happy we moved up. Then drove a 40 ft Allegro Bus and fell in love with the ultra smooth ride and even more quietness when under way. I'm afraid to drive a tag axle Bus, as folks have said that is even nicer to drive than the Bus we have now. I think length and weight have a lot to do with the ride.
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Went from a 2018 34 ft Holiday Rambler gas to a 34 ft Tiffin RED, and thought we were driving a cloud compared to the gas powered rig. Noise and ride were so much nicer we were so happy we moved up. Then drove a 40 ft Allegro Bus and fell in love with the ultra smooth ride and even more quietness when under way. I'm afraid to drive a tag axle Bus, as folks have said that is even nicer to drive than the Bus we have now. I think length and weight have a lot to do with the ride.
I know it’s subjective, but do you think if you went from the 40 ft to the 34ft Tiffin RED you would be disappointed in the ride? In other words, could you go back? I know we would never be able to own a gas coach after having the DP. I’m wondering if the difference is that great.

And stay out of those tag axles unless you want to be moving up again!
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Until we drove the Bus, we were totally satisfied with the 34 ft RED Tiffin. It was such a vast improvement over the gas ride and noise. Should something happen to make us get out of the Bus, we would/could go back to the 34ft range rear engine diesel rig again. I don't know for sure if it is just the bigger more weight Bus, or the Powerglide independent front suspension that makes the Bus such a big difference in ride and drivability? But there is a BIG difference in these two RV's.
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Sheepishly, he quietly suggests ..... you might consider Bob's down size plan, the Breeze 33BR. IFS and a 4" longer wheelbase than the RED 33AA will help the ride. Smaller tires and the lack of an option to upgrade to Koni dampers likely hurt it, but the Koni's are coming, maybe. The 2500 Allison locks you in to downsizing your toad, but you fit under lower branches and slide past obstructions that might scratch a Red's paint. If the Breeze fits your objectives and the layout is acceptable, it can be an option.
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Sheepishly, he quietly suggests ..... you might consider Bob's down size plan, the Breeze 33BR. IFS and a 4" longer wheelbase than the RED 33AA will help the ride. Smaller tires and the lack of an option to upgrade to Koni dampers likely hurt it, but the Koni's are coming, maybe. The 2500 Allison locks you in to downsizing your toad, but you fit under lower branches and slide past obstructions that might scratch a Red's paint. If the Breeze fits your objectives and the layout is acceptable, it can be an option.

We thought about the Breeze, but were turned off by the Maxxforce. The later models with the Cummins are just a little out of price range. I didnt know that they had IFS and longer chassis. If it werent for the price, wed definitely consider it. Thanks for that info.
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