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03-06-2018, 12:16 PM
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Tire Considerations
My rig is a 40’ Tiffin Phaeton 2013 and I suspect it’s time for tire replacement, the DOT stamped date is “2612” and I can see some hairline cracks in the sidewalls ! My tires are 275/80 R22.5 XZA3+ Michelin ! I have discounted prices available through FMCA on Michelin, Continental and BF Goodrich ! I would like pros and cons on the comparisons as the Michelin’s are considerably higher even with the FMCA discounted price ! Has anyone experienced any problems with the others ? ?
Thanks
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03-06-2018, 12:28 PM
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Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Isn't Goodrich owned by Michelin?
Your tires are only 6 yrs old, way too soon to replace. I ran my last set of Michelins for 9 years and they looked great both inside and outside.
Minor checking or cracking is no problem.
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03-06-2018, 12:37 PM
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Foretravel Owners Club
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Also consider Toyo's,
M-144's as they have a higher weight capacities than the M-154's
and the price may be quite a bit less than the Mich's.
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03-06-2018, 12:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieH
My rig is a 40’ Tiffin Phaeton 2013 and I suspect it’s time for tire replacement, the DOT stamped date is “2612” and I can see some hairline cracks in the sidewalls ! My tires are 275/80 R22.5 XZA3+ Michelin ! I have discounted prices available through FMCA on Michelin, Continental and BF Goodrich ! I would like pros and cons on the comparisons as the Michelin’s are considerably higher even with the FMCA discounted price ! Has anyone experienced any problems with the others ? ?
Thanks
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I replaced my 1209 (12th week of 2009) Michelin 275/80R 22.5 tires YESTERDAY with the Michelin XZE, load rating H, for much less than FMCA at DiscountTire in Las Vegas, NV. My coach is a 2010 Tiffin 40QTH and the price, per tire was $472, but after FET, tax, and $150 for an installer to come to my storage unit, the price came to $3,284.83. FMCA was not even close.
I wonder if you are really in need yet of new tires. A close inspection of mine yesterday revealed very minor dry rot and no unusual wear. After nine years though I felt it was time to replace and not take any chances from age.
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03-06-2018, 01:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrb1ll
I replaced my 1209 (12th week of 2009) Michelin 275/80R 22.5 tires YESTERDAY with the Michelin XZE, load rating H, for much less than FMCA at DiscountTire in Las Vegas, NV. My coach is a 2010 Tiffin 40QTH and the price, per tire was $472, but after FET, tax, and $150 for an installer to come to my storage unit, the price came to $3,284.83. FMCA was not even close.
I wonder if you are really in need yet of new tires. A close inspection of mine yesterday revealed very minor dry rot and no unusual wear. After nine years though I felt it was time to replace and not take any chances from age.
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FMCA price for 275/80R 22.5 XZE is $590 plus FET and installation.
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03-06-2018, 08:00 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club
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Check with Southern Tire Mart, I see they have a location in Monroe. Late last week I put 6 new Toyo M144’s on my ‘08 Allegro Bus for just a touch over $2,100 here on Dallas.
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03-06-2018, 08:23 PM
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Thanks, I will definitely check, is the load range “H” on the M144’s ?
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03-07-2018, 04:55 AM
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I had Toyo steering tires on my old Winnie and they are a great tire.
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03-07-2018, 05:10 AM
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03-07-2018, 06:34 AM
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Yes, 16 ply load range H.
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03-07-2018, 07:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saddlesore
Also consider Toyo's,
M-144's as they have a higher weight capacities than the M-154's
and the price may be quite a bit less than the Mich's.
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If the Toyo's are the same sise and loadrange, the higher weight capacity's can only be because they are calcuted for a lower speed then the Michelins.
See for that the speedcode .
Then for instance Toyo L ( 120km/75m/h) and the Michelins M ( 81m/130km/h) wich would give in these large tires 2 Loadindex steps different maximum load of tire.
Can also be that you see in pressure/loadcapacity list a higher loadcapacity for for instance 80 psi , while the Loadindex is the same.
Then it would be the different calculation is the blame.
To laws of nature, tires of same sises and loadrange have same maximum load for the same speed.
So first see if its not yust an administrative difference.
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03-22-2018, 09:34 AM
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Tiffin Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SlickTX
Check with Southern Tire Mart, I see they have a location in Monroe. Late last week I put 6 new Toyo M144’s on my ‘08 Allegro Bus for just a touch over $2,100 here on Dallas.
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Update #1: We got home from an 1,800 mile 10 day trip a few days ago and the Toyos performed flawlessly. No noticeable difference from the Michelins that were on before, but the peace of mind from new tires is worth the cost.
Update #2: Just this morning I sold the six used Michelins for $650 to a truck driver. My net cost for the 6 new Toyos is now $1,450.
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03-22-2018, 12:19 PM
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Freightliner Owners Club
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I'm also looking for the same size tire. Found a Formula Drive 2 by Pirelli on a website for $200/tire. Its H rated, made in Brazil, not China.
https://www.otrusa.com/product/27580...-all-position/
Anyone have any experience w/those? Disappointed w/the oem Michelins that develop sidewall cracks after 5 yrs.
Don
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03-22-2018, 12:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SlickTX
Update #1: We got home from an 1,800 mile 10 day trip a few days ago and the Toyos performed flawlessly. No noticeable difference from the Michelins that were on before, but the peace of mind from new tires is worth the cost.
Update #2: Just this morning I sold the six used Michelins for $650 to a truck driver. My net cost for the 6 new Toyos is now $1,450.
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Now, because the Truck driver doesn't read the forum, he will likely run them out then retread them two or three more times before he resells them - he'll get $250 so his cost was only $400 for say the next 150,000 miles. ..
One Happy Guy,
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