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sr1223 · 11-28-2021, 04:51 PM

2003 Allegro. We used air compressor to blow out all lines. Drained HWH, bypassed HWH, checked all faucets shower, toilet and no water remaining. We purchased Camco Winterizing kit, hooked it up to water pump and it will not suck the antifreeze from the jug. We tried it on both sides of the water pump. I don't have it in the pic, but yes the hose was connected at the top middle section to the jug of AF. Also, what exactly is that white part of the water pump on right side?

TandW · 11-28-2021, 04:58 PM

Dirt and sediment screen.

SamKVA · 11-29-2021, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sr1223

2003 Allegro. We used air compressor to blow out all lines. Drained HWH, bypassed HWH, checked all faucets shower, toilet and no water remaining. We purchased Camco Winterizing kit, hooked it up to water pump and it will not suck the antifreeze from the jug. We tried it on both sides of the water pump. I don't have it in the pic, but yes the hose was connected at the top middle section to the jug of AF. Also, what exactly is that white part of the water pump on right side?

I installed the same kit last spring in our Phaeton and yesterday, it didn't suck the the AF out of the jug. Removed it and all worked fine. Didn't try to figure out what was wrong or broken but a short job turned into 2 hours.

Sam

sr1223 · 11-30-2021, 04:24 AM

Removed what? Not sure what you are referring to. A little extra info is appreciated
Thx in advance

Mike8253 · 11-30-2021, 05:51 AM

Did you turn the valve on the adapter you installed to open the path from the antifreeze container to the pump? Also, depending on your wetbay setup, sometimes if the relative height of the top level of the antifreeze is not high enough when compared to the pump, the pump won't be able to start to draw the antifreeze in. See if you can raise the antifreeze level a little to help the pump draw it in.

SamKVA · 11-30-2021, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sr1223

Removed what? Not sure what you are referring to. A little extra info is appreciated
Thx in advance

I removed the Camco adapter, connected the AF hose directly to the water pump and it worked fine.

Sam

SamKVA · 11-30-2021, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike8253

Did you turn the valve on the adapter you installed to open the path from the antifreeze container to the pump? Also, depending on your wetbay setup, sometimes if the relative height of the top level of the antifreeze is not high enough when compared to the pump, the pump won't be able to start to draw the antifreeze in. See if you can raise the antifreeze level a little to help the pump draw it in.

I certainly did turn the valve on the adapter. The AF bucket was at the same height throughout the process, with and without the adapter.

Sam

Mike8253 · 11-30-2021, 06:05 AM

I would make sure about the valve in the kit. Might be it's just not opening enough to allow the flow to initiate. Might also want to place the AF bottle higher relative to the pump to see if that helps to start the flow. Given the age of your pump, the vacuum might not be enough to start the AF to flow. The adapter probably closes the opening down a bit compared to not using the adapter at all. I'd also check to see if the pump screen has any debris in it.

JohnCZ · 11-30-2021, 09:23 AM

As others have noted, the pump is having trouble priming. Definitely check the strainer for debris, and clean it. And, when you connect your AF hose to the branch connection of that 3-way valve, it helps to either get the hose full of AF, or elevate the jug of AF to help prime the pump. Good luck!
Let us know how you made out.

KanzKran · 11-30-2021, 09:42 AM

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As others have noted, the pump is having trouble priming. Definitely check the strainer for debris, and clean it. And, when you connect your AF hose to the branch connection of that 3-way valve, it helps to either get the hose full of AF, or elevate the jug of AF to help prime the pump.

I don't know if something like this exists, but perhaps the cap of the jug can be adapted to accept a nylon hose such that the jug can be inverted and raised to put gravity head at the pump. I haven't had to do this, but it seems logical if the pump can't pull hard enough to prime itself. Just about any container would work as long as a fitting can be put at the low point.

Edit: Found such a thing with jug at West Marine. Should work fine, but it's one more thing to carry. A hose with cap only would allow the jug to be disposed of, but I haven't seen one. I think I made my own when I was winterizing my sailboat's diesel on the hard, but I don't remember the details any more.

https://www.westmarine.com/buy/camco...59?recordNum=2

Mike8253 · 11-30-2021, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sr1223

2003 Allegro. We used air compressor to blow out all lines. Drained HWH, bypassed HWH, checked all faucets shower, toilet and no water remaining. We purchased Camco Winterizing kit, hooked it up to water pump and it will not suck the antifreeze from the jug. We tried it on both sides of the water pump. I don't have it in the pic, but yes the hose was connected at the top middle section to the jug of AF. Also, what exactly is that white part of the water pump on right side?

Apologies sr1223, I just now got on my laptop (was on my phone before) and realized that I was not actually responding to your original post. Is any of the dialog here helping you out? If you have any other observations or questions, please let all know. Your original post kind of got hijacked.

JohnCZ · 11-30-2021, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike8253

Apologies sr1223, I just now got on my laptop (was on my phone before) and realized that I was not actually responding to your original post. Is any of the dialog here helping you out? If you have any other observations or questions, please let all know. Your original post kind of got hijacked.

Mike, where did it get hijacked? Seems like most all comments had to do with ways to help prime the pump, or reduce a potential restriction. And, his question about the "white thing" got answered.

sr1223 · 12-01-2021, 03:31 AM

We've tried all prior suggestions other than direct connect kit hose to water pump. Did consider the height of the jug too and adjusted for that with no success. I'm not a physicist, but if you direct connect, One of the lines then must be disconnected( either the one to fresh water tank or to main water lines of MH) which leaves nowhere for AF to get pumped to.

SamKVA · 12-01-2021, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sr1223

We've tried all prior suggestions other than direct connect kit hose to water pump. Did consider the height of the jug too and adjusted for that with no success. I'm not a physicist, but if you direct connect, One of the lines then must be disconnected( either the one to fresh water tank or to main water lines of MH) which leaves nowhere for AF to get pumped to.

If you disconnect the line from the fresh water tank to the pump and connect the hose for the AF bottle to that pump input, it should work. The connections aren't always the easiest to reach which is why I installed Camco valve last year.

Hope this helps!
Sam