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Old 08-01-2013, 06:34 PM   #1
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'05 Revolution front cap insulation

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learning all of the ins and outs of my new to me 05 Revolution 40L.

One thing I have noticed is that the storage compartments above the drivers seat that house a bunch of electronics get very warm. At first I thought this might be heat from the components themselves...but have determined that is not the cause.

The heat is from sunlight heating the painted black cap above the windshield and then radiating inside. The problem is that during the day it makes the components (home theater on drivers side, and climate and systems controls on passenger side) VERY warm. The other significant impact is that the climate control during the day believes that zone 1 is MUCH warmer then it actually is (thermometer can read over 90 degrees for zone one when it is obviously around 75).

Has anyone else experienced this, or more importantly, done anything to address it? I was wondering if applying a reflective tape/insulation product and then additional insulation would be the best course of action.

When upgrading my TV I noticed that there is some form of foam stick on insulation, but it is very thin and has come off in many places.

Thoughts?
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:19 PM   #2
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I have a 2009 Georgie Boy Cruisemaster and have the same issue, Been wondering if I removed everything up there if I could have a spray in insulation like used in residential and commercial applications shot into the front cap surfaces.

Not really sure why such a piss poor job of insulating this area is done in motorhomes as I have had 3 and all of them where pretty much the same.
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:40 PM   #3
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I do not have the same model, but I had the same problem with my Bounder diesel. I have a front mounted tv just behind and above the windshield. I removed my tv and was able to look at the backside of the cap. Very very disappointing-- what they had used for insulation was a 1/2inch thick gray blanket glued to the cap but they hadn't even glued it well enough to hold it to the cap. It fallen completely away from the cap, so it was just laying about 12" away from the cap. So I had no insulation in the front cap area. I drug out the old insulation blanket and used fiberglass insulation. After alot of pushing shoving with broom handles and anything else I could in the hole behind the tv I did enough insulation to really help. What's so disappointing it would have taken a guy with spray insulation gun three minutes to insulate it really really well before the cabinets were installed and cost maybe $30.00 for the foam.
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I leave the flip up door flipped up



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It allows the ac to keep everything cool.
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Old 08-02-2013, 07:51 AM   #5
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I leave the flip up door flipped up

It allows the ac to keep everything cool.
I leave my door open too, I notice on my side that has the comfort controls that the temp can be sometimes more then 20 degrees different then the temp near the zone 1 sensor , I was thinking maybe I had a broken wire to the temp sensor or a bad sensor but I am thinking that because it is so warm in this area, that the comfort control has no option but to pick up the temp inside the box wear the control sits, the thing I don't understand is why zone 2 seems to pick up the right temp.
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We had a Revolution and the front cap got pretty weathered looking, as the clear coat was basically destroyed by the weather. I had it repainted white and it blended in well with the colors on the body, it was blue and white and it seemed 20 degrees cooler inside. Not sure why the factory painted the cap black in the first place.
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As you can tell from the previous responses, this is a common problem. This is one of the reasons we choose a lighter color scheme when we ordered our Revolution.

Attached is a photo of that area during construction. You're right, what little they sprayed up there is almost useless. Complicating any attempt to insulate the area on your own is the fact that the windshield wiper motors are up there.

We actually had our satellite receiver shut down once because of the heat. A message pops up on the tv saying the receiver would reactivate once the temp went below 120 degrees - it also gave the current temp as something between 140 and 150. I opened up the compartment door and in about 15 minutes all was once again well. In three years, that's the only time it has happened, and there is a "vent" in the cabinet above the access door. We do not keep the door open.
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Sounds like I am not alone. I forgot to mention that I did install a small fan in my AV cabinet to circulate air, it is wired into the switched outlet on my receiver so when the stereo is on the fan is on.

Anyone actually take action and add insultion? A spray on would be relatively simple with just the TV removed. I could mask off or protect the wiper motors when applying it.
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We had a Revolution and the front cap got pretty weathered looking, as the clear coat was basically destroyed by the weather. I had it repainted white and it blended in well with the colors on the body, it was blue and white and it seemed 20 degrees cooler inside. Not sure why the factory painted the cap black in the first place.
I don't think a single Rev.with a black front cap the clear coat did not peel. But it's not just the front cap but on the top of the back and sides which are not black. I wish I had built my carport sooner.
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IMHO, there is way too much black on most of these coaches. Can't keep them clean, and as noted, very very hot.
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Bat insulation would be simple to add. Or alternatively, if you didn't want to deal with exposed fibers, an insulation blanket for a hot water heater could be secured in place.
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The hard part of adding insulation is getting the access to the area that needs it. Not the insulation it self. On my mine it was go through a 10" hole behind my tv or pull all of the front cabinets out. The 10" hole was the way I went.
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What insulation did you use? Access is pretty straightforward for me, I just need to pull the 39" flat screen in the center. I was thinking that insulation with reflective material attached directly to the fiberglass or spray on would work best, but perhaps regular fiberglass bat would do the trick also, that would certainly be the easiest and least permanent solution.

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I know this is resurrecting an old post but has anyone tried something like this inside the front cap: Foam it Green Spray Foam Kits : Foam It Green 102 Spray Foam Insulation Kit

As many have noted this is a weakness in pretty much every MH.
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